Selo

I really like the 718, but I struggle with the fact that one can get a nicely equipped Corvette GS for $70,000. But then again, I don't really want a Corvette....but the juxtaposition of a honkin V8 for 70 vs a turbo 4 for 90? As much as I like the 718, I just don't think it's a good value.
Assuming the GT4 and Spyder truly remain NA 6 cyl, and can be had for around 100, the scales even out some......I think that's where the value is on the 718, if one can acquire an allocation.

Fliz

I too struggled with the Vette GS option. Also considered the FType and TTRS. But TTRS eliminated itself because of no manual tranny. FType wasn't even close to the 718 IMO, in terms of performance and transmission feel, even though it has better engine noises. And the Vette... well, I've just never been a Vette guy. The GT350 was interesting to me, but I didn't drive one and I do suspect I'd be put off by the relative build/interior quality. But, man that engine!

Argon_

The Flat four WRX/718 is the best sounding four cylinder that's made. I would go so far as to say that it sounds good.

The difference is that a flat six makes lovely sounds.

The replacement of 'lovely' with 'good' is a detriment to an otherwise spot on car. Solid proof that Porsche is stepping on the two seater's toes.

They could have made a 2L flat six. They didn't.

Fast 0-60 times are easy: A big turbo and drag radials. Fast lap times are harder, but still easy: 345 width tires, stiff springs, and a blown V8.

Creating a car that stirs the emotions is the hardest challenge. There's no easy way out, no way to bullsh1t your way to victory. You either succeed, or simply don't.

guab

No doubt if you have the E92 M3 you'll be good to go on that front no doubt. Love love love the E92, assuming no hump in the dash. Still looking for a unicorn (E92, carbon roof, cloth seats, no nav, 6 speed, comp package)... kind of unlikely I will find one though.

718 is probably a great car. I would not hesitate to add one (Cayman), but not as a replacement to the Spyder.

Choppen

I am waiting for a 2018 base Cayman mt due at ATL PEC in October. I looked at the Corvette, which is very attractive, but it is not imo in the same ball park. One thing not usually mentioned here is the warranty: 3/36 v 4/50, which I take as a statement about the manufacturers views of reliability. It might be that the 718 is an evolutionary step toward a Cayman hybrid. I would like to see that. I also have a 2015 Macan S with pdk, which I will keep until my kids wangle it away. The sum investment in the two is under $120K, which is in 911 territory.

Zeus993

Which brings up the issue of the Spyder being the ultimate 2nd car. With a Cayman it could be the perfect set up. I enjoy my Cayman in rain and any kind of weather, except supper sunny (now). It's a perfect, almost "utility", DD sports car. An SUCar per say...

Viffermike

Great point -- and not only that, but there's an inexplicable difference for those of us who are 'taller drinks of water': the 718 Cayman has more headroom. Considerably more headroom.

I sat in a C7 Grand Sport at the Corvette Museum a few months back. With the seat at its lowest position and with the seatback raked back slightly more than was comfortable, the top of my head stuck out beyond the T-top, and the windshield was darn near directly in my line of sight -- and it was totally in my line of sight in a 987 Boxster I drove years ago, FWIW.

When I sat in a 718 in mid-May with full doses of skepticism ... it fit like a freaking glove. It's roomier in ways than my current BMW 2 Series.

Choppen

Speaking of head room, there is a tall man review ( ) of the Cayman - he is 6'10" and once in, has good leg and head room. The things you watch while waiting...at least I haven't turned to the imanuals yet.

Fliz

I'm only 6' 1" but was also struck by the fit of the 718, even versus my e90 M3. Plenty of room in both, but the 718 just put me in the perfect driving position with minor adjustments whereas my M3 needed quite a bit of tweaking to find the sweet spot and even then doesn't seem quite as focused wrt driving position.

Argon_

^^^ If only the 718 came with an 8000 RPM V8.

Fliz

Especially if it sounded like the M3 but tipped the scales like the 718.

GregWormald

He and his mate should have a read of the imanual--he'd be able to find the cup holders--and realise the car is rear wheel drive with good traction control (that can be turned w-a-y down) not all wheel drive. I can't imagine showing my ignorance that widely, I try to keep it to myself!

Greg

randr

LOL if only the M3 could go round corners, if only the M3 could maintain traction, if only the M3 could cut a cpl of laps and not cook it brakes, if only fit and finish weren't a random act of god .......

Argon_

A V8 8000 RPM Cayman could absolutely work. Coyote and LS swaps have already been done.

Now all that's needed is an 8200 rpm Voodoo engine. Mid engine handling and 500 hp.

Fliz

Gotta say that my M3 has been impeccable in the fit and finish department. Not so much in the throttle body department. And... then there's the bearing issue which thankfully hasn't reared it's ugly head for me. Still for a DD that can haul a coupla kids it's been hard to beat.