718 Boxster and 718 Cayman!!!
#108
Similar to the 991.2, the only off-putting aspect of the car for me are the cosmetic changes. The only reason I finally bought a Cayman was because of the styling changes that came with the 981. I thought they took an odd looking car and made it beautiful. The rear styling treatment on this car is a step back toward the 987.
#109
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Similar to the 991.2, the only off-putting aspect of the car for me are the cosmetic changes. The only reason I finally bought a Cayman was because of the styling changes that came with the 981. I thought they took an odd looking car and made it beautiful. The rear styling treatment on this car is a step back toward the 987.
#111
Highly doubt that. This tail is the one shown in all the previous spy shots and I doubt they would do an early press ride like this with pictures if it was not essentially a finished product. Plus, given that rear wing and brake light design, there is no way to merge it into the lights without a totally different design of the tail and rear decklid.
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Highly doubt that. This tail is the one shown in all the previous spy shots and I doubt they would do an early press ride like this with pictures if it was not essentially a finished product. Plus, given that rear wing and brake light design, there is no way to merge it into the lights without a totally different design of the tail and rear decklid.
But the outside cover for the taillight may not be the final version. The sixth picture from the bottom shows snow collecting where I don't think it would collect on the current Boxster, suggesting a new recess in the bumper. The fourth picture from the bottom shows the two light bars lining up very nicely just under the new spoiler. One possibility is that the two horizontal light bars are like the central, recessed part of the new 911 lights. And the top, protruding part of the new Boxster taillight would line up with the top of the Boxster's spoiler.
The taillight covers on these cars look pretty strange. The 7th and 8th picture from the top show these incongruent lines at about a 30 degree angle above horizontal, that look like they are partially cut off by the edge of the cover. They look like they are painted on, since the are visible mostly in the daytime pictures and don't light up in any of the night pictures...
#114
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Gawd, I hope they aren't doing a USA specific rear bumper with a narrow plate area... proportions look really bad on that versus the euro.
#115
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News from Autocar this morning having joined winter testing in Canada:
"As a result of the additional parts needed for the turbo system, the overall weight of the base Boxster has increased from 1315kg to 1400kg."
That's a huge increase! A GT3 is only 30kg more than that! So much for improved handling due to weight loss.
They also say that packaging was difficult. They're proud they squeezed the turbos in the space liberated by the missing 2 cylinders so there won't be a chance of a GTS version with a 911-sourced turbo 6.
This is all very bad news. Glad I'm getting the last of the NA.
"As a result of the additional parts needed for the turbo system, the overall weight of the base Boxster has increased from 1315kg to 1400kg."
That's a huge increase! A GT3 is only 30kg more than that! So much for improved handling due to weight loss.
They also say that packaging was difficult. They're proud they squeezed the turbos in the space liberated by the missing 2 cylinders so there won't be a chance of a GTS version with a 911-sourced turbo 6.
This is all very bad news. Glad I'm getting the last of the NA.
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#117
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Hello all, I am newly registered to the community, but I have been lurking for quite some time.
I have been a Porsche fan for several decades, but haven't until recently owned one (2011 Cayman with only 3900 miles). I have on the other hand owned Subaru's for the entirety of those two decades, several of which were turbo's, two specifically were STi's, and my last Subaru had a NA H6 3.6.
Comparing a Porsche sport car to a Subaru sports car is like comparing bananas and oranges. Sure they are both fruit, and are both quite adept at being eaten, but the manners in which they get to that end result are tangibly different. The banana, in this case being a Porsche Cayman, is practically the perfect package, and when peeled the processes is near effortless and precise. The orange, in this case being a Subaru STi, is almost the exact opposite as the banana. The packaging is all ripply, and when peeled the process is forced and jagged. Both are sports cars and both are fun to drive, but completely different experiences. That being said, and I know no one was comparing the two, I like the analogy and it sorta leads into what I am about to say.
What Subaru has done with the flat four and flat six, turbo or no turbo, has been fantastic. They are solidly built, have a unique sound and power band all their own, but as a long time Subaru owner, I was always wanting more power from the engines. With the aforementioned, I look forward to seeing what Porsche's iteration of the turbo flat 4 will be for the 718. I am a fan of my NA H6 2.9L, but I wouldn't be any less in love with my Cayman if it came with a turbo H4. The banana in its entirety is what makes it a perfectly packaged piece of fruit.
I have been a Porsche fan for several decades, but haven't until recently owned one (2011 Cayman with only 3900 miles). I have on the other hand owned Subaru's for the entirety of those two decades, several of which were turbo's, two specifically were STi's, and my last Subaru had a NA H6 3.6.
Comparing a Porsche sport car to a Subaru sports car is like comparing bananas and oranges. Sure they are both fruit, and are both quite adept at being eaten, but the manners in which they get to that end result are tangibly different. The banana, in this case being a Porsche Cayman, is practically the perfect package, and when peeled the processes is near effortless and precise. The orange, in this case being a Subaru STi, is almost the exact opposite as the banana. The packaging is all ripply, and when peeled the process is forced and jagged. Both are sports cars and both are fun to drive, but completely different experiences. That being said, and I know no one was comparing the two, I like the analogy and it sorta leads into what I am about to say.
What Subaru has done with the flat four and flat six, turbo or no turbo, has been fantastic. They are solidly built, have a unique sound and power band all their own, but as a long time Subaru owner, I was always wanting more power from the engines. With the aforementioned, I look forward to seeing what Porsche's iteration of the turbo flat 4 will be for the 718. I am a fan of my NA H6 2.9L, but I wouldn't be any less in love with my Cayman if it came with a turbo H4. The banana in its entirety is what makes it a perfectly packaged piece of fruit.
#118
We have SOUND!!!
Not impressed.
#120
Wow that sound clip sounds awful. Even worse than I expected. Sounds manufactured, kinda like a baseball card in the spokes of your sting ray bike.