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Old 12-10-2015 | 09:32 PM
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Engine downsizing was sure to happen with regulations getting tighter.
Unless they make the car lighter somehow (doubtful) you will have a smaller turbocharged engine pulling the same mass. I don't see how that realistically can result in better fuel economy.

I've owned a Subaru WRX and that 4cyl turbo was a blast to drive.. But that lag. You had to keep the revs up to enjoy it and mpg was not great in that zone.

If Porsche can minimize the lag , it should still be a very fun car.
We'll just have to wait and see.
Old 12-10-2015 | 10:03 PM
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Most sports cars coming out these days have much lower lag than they used to. I would expect this car to have very minimal turbo lag. Look to the 991.2 as a good idea of what to expect for lag.
Old 12-10-2015 | 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Milehigh981
I've owned a Subaru WRX and that 4cyl turbo was a blast to drive.. But that lag. You had to keep the revs up to enjoy it and mpg was not great in that zone.
A long time ago, I was in the Saab dealer picking up Sport and Rally skidplate for my N/A 8-valve 900S (why I needed the skidplate is a long story, and it was a very cool accessory to have.) This grizzled old Czech gentleman who worked in sales asked me what car I was putting it on. I told him and his eyes lit up "Fabulous car. Great handling." "Yeah, but it's a bit slow," I said. He looked at me like I was lazy and said "You shift too early."

Ever since, I've kept the revs UP! much to my wife's chagrin. "Can you please shift up so we stop throwing gas money out the tailpipe?" "But honey, I'm keeping the (WRX) turbo spooled up so we can rocket out of the next bend..."

I get to go for a 5 hour drive in the snow tomorrow and I'm looking forward to it.
Old 12-10-2015 | 10:39 PM
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I wonder if the 718 Cayman/718 Boxster convention is the first step into a 718 Coupe/Roadster type of naming convention in the future. Seems simpler than how it currently is.
Old 12-10-2015 | 11:00 PM
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I expect the 718s to be awesome with improved performance.
Old 12-10-2015 | 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by GTgears
It's simple. 9 -2 cylinders = 7 series.
Except that the 918 has 8 cylinders.

This is no surprise - smaller displacement turbos turn better economy and emissions numbers on test cycles, especially when coupled to a modern automatic or dual-clutch with many speeds. "Your mileage may vary" has never been so apropos (well, except for the last time this happened, for those that were alive in the late 70s and 80s).
Old 12-10-2015 | 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Alan Smithee
Except that the 918 has 8 cylinders.
That's a 9 series car. The 928 has 8 too. As did a number of factory racecars. But what else has had a turbo 4?
Old 12-11-2015 | 12:15 AM
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Old 12-11-2015 | 10:36 AM
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My last car (997.2 C2S) got better MPG than the one I had before that (Megane R26 with fairly heavily turbocharged 2.0). On the test cycle the Megane would win but as soon as you put your foot down, turbos suck **** loads of air and fuel in as they are designed to do!

I'll admit there is a small amount of mpg benefit to the smaller engine that a turbo allows but I don't think it's worth the expense in response and sound.

What we need is other ways of NA engines artificially getting round the emissions tests, which is basically what turbos do. Cylinder deactivation is one. Low performing ECU maps that can be overridden with a sport button another.
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Originally Posted by GTgears
That's a 9 series car. The 928 has 8 too. As did a number of factory racecars. But what else has had a turbo 4?
924 Turbo, 944 Turbo...
Old 12-11-2015 | 11:11 AM
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LOL in 2050 I will be 86


I need to learn how to take 50 gal of crude and make 94 octane gasoline out of it...
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Sounds interesting but I am more than likely saving my down for the next Audi TTS RS. Of course all depends on price points and seat of the pant's experience.

Please don't hate me too much when I say I thought they might Revive the 356 Moniker for the 4 Cylinder that was coming out. Granted it's footprint would be smaller than the Boxster-Cayman.
Old 12-11-2015 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by The New 911
Sounds interesting but I am more than likely saving my down for the next Audi TTS RS. Of course all depends on price points and seat of the pant's experience.

Please don't hate me too much when I say I thought they might Revive the 356 Moniker for the 4 Cylinder that was coming out. Granted it's footprint would be smaller than the Boxster-Cayman.
Next TTRS will be S-tronic only... A manual is a requirement for me. Not sure why you thought 356? That is rear not mid-engined like the 718.
Old 12-11-2015 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Briby
I wonder if the 718 Cayman/718 Boxster convention is the first step into a 718 Coupe/Roadster type of naming convention in the future. Seems simpler than how it currently is.
Don't know, but with the new nomenclature, those trunk lids are going to be loaded with very busy badge logos. Porsche will have to add "IF YOU CAN READ THIS YOU'RE TOO CLOSE" which of course, will just add more script (and which they'll likely charge for). I pray there will always be a "logo delete" option.
Old 12-11-2015 | 12:16 PM
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Well this confirms my future car build, I really have no desire for a turbo charged engine unless it's a hybrid car with torque fill. I've loved high revving NA engines since I got my E46 M3 and I don't think I could walk away from the driving feel that that type of engine offers. A 4.0l 981 Cayman build is in my sights.

These new emissions laws are seriously killing performance cars.


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