raaizin

I currently have a 2014 911 pdk and would like to add a 718s manual 6 speed. What could one expect for a discount on a new 2019 cayman s 6 speed manual in the northeast. It would be an out of state purchase and not local to me.

wtmeyer

I would think at least 20% now that 2020 models are on the ground and 2021s are being ordered.

ldamelio

I think 20% is optimistic. There are few allocations and the car has not changed meaningfully since 2017. In any event, the bigger the option list, the more room the dealer has to move. Tell us more about the car and where you are. The northeast US covers a large area with varying markets. Some dealers can afford to sit on the car, others might be more motivated to move it.

raaizin

I am in NJ, car in Massachussetts. MSRP is 83,700. They had a CPO similar spec with 9k miles that was listed for 72,500 , 20% off 83700 would be about 67k well below what they are asking for the CPO'd car. I dont see that happening

worf928

A *new* never-sold, warranty-unpunched *2019* 718 Cayman S 6-speed?

raaizin

I am not sure if warranty punched yet, if so I would only consider if cpo'd. It only has 13 miles
https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...8341/overview/

TXshaggy

2021s have been hitting the ports since late September. We’re half way through the 2021 allocation cycles..

That 2019 could be 2.5 years old. Post up the VIN, VA will tell you the birthdate.

Considering folks report ~5% off custom orders you should seek a minimum of 10% and 2 years of additional CPO warranty...that’s if it unpunched.

Personally, I’d just order new.

worf928

Kinda strange neither-fish-nor-fowl build. Sport Chrono has almost no use on a manual. No PVT. No PASM. So not a “driver”/“performance” build, But, standard interior, no premium package *plus*, so not a “luxury” build.

Standard adequate-for-talk-radio base stereo.

Warranty not punched (probably.) Can’t imagine why they wouldn’t be willing to take a bit of a loss to get it outta there. So... WAG 15-20% off MSRP, since low option build.

raaizin

Doesnt premium pkg give you Bose radio?

worf928

It does *now*. But, IIRC, in 2019 it did not. In 2019 there was Premium Pkg which was memory package, PDLS, auto-dimming mirrors. Premium Package Plus added entry and drive and some other stuff that might also have included Bose.

raaizin

got it thanks, I would like the upgraded radio otherwise the build is good for me. I am not really in any kind of rush I have something to keep me occupied I just wanted one last manual. I really was looking for a cpo'd one but this looked good I will continue to look. Thanks for the help

David Borden

The market is strong for the 718 right now and prices have gone UP over the last 6 months. I would think 10% would be a decent discount. I doubt they would even consider something around 20%. The bottom line is a dealer, especially a Porsche dealer, is going to know about what they can get for the car regardless what you think you can get it for. All you can do is offer what you are willing to pay. If it makes business sense to sell the car, they will. If not, they will wait for the right buyer.

worf928

True. But, MSRP and dealer cost are not variable.
Since you can get 6% or more on a new order, 10% on a two-year-sitting floor model seems like what a dealer should lead with...
20% would, I think, represent a very slight loss for them. Never hurts to ask. All they can do is say no. And if they say no, you can always comeback at 15%.

I would bet that it can be had for 13-15% off MSRP.

It costs the dealer money every month to have it sitting around. Clearly *this* dealer doesn't know what they can get for it else it wouldn't have been sitting around for two years. Or they have a motive for continuing to pay the carrying cost for it.

David Borden

Yes, true... The car market is very strong right now, inventory is low and demand is high. Dealers normally know the market better than their customers.. Thats not a poke at the buying customer, its just the reality of the business in general.

I have been trying to help a friend locate a 718 GTS and he is having a heck of a time finding one that has a few specific features. There was a perfect car at the local Porsche dealership.... It was a used 2018 GTS with low miles, but it was listed in the mid $80k range and he felt it was too expensive. Someone purchased it the next week and he missed out on the car. When looking for my 718 CS, despite having access to pretty much all wholesale channels, I purchased retail since there was no inventory to speak of available with the options I wanted and that was a year ago. The cars are more expensive and inventory seems more limited now than then.

Correct and so starts the dance. The dealer knows they will save the interest or carrying cost of having cars on the lot vs lost profit by selling lower than what they feel they can get for the car. We dont know how much that dealer is paying for money or other factors that influence their decisions. Maybe they are being stubborn, but more than likely experience and data are driving their decisions. Its a bit of a SWAG, but its an educated decision based on lots of data such as web site metrics, google analytics, and mfg market data they may have access to etc.

You should always ask because you wont have a shot at it with out trying. I would certainly do the same.

All I am trying to get across is most dealers know what they have and know what they can get within reason. Most have a process on how they will time out their inventory. I certainly agree that 2 years is a long time... and much longer that I would keep something unless I wanted to keep it around for a reason.

Peace! David

Keadog

[QUOTE=David Borden;17162103. I certainly agree that 2 years is a long time... and much longer that I would keep something unless I wanted to keep it around for a reason.
Peace! David[/QUOTE]

Do you think they have changed the oil twice? It is time and/or mileage, correct?