718 Spyder allocation and ADM
07-14-2019, 04:07 AM
#46
I got an email from my local dealer 4 days ago requesting a 10K ADM for a GT4.
I wrote back telling them to pound sand (in a nice way) and explained everything discussed here on Rennlist why there shouldn’t be an ADM.
Stealership wrote back and said since I haven’t bought a Porsche from them before it’s 10K ADM to get my foot in the door otherwise no car.
They said the exact same thing to me for the 991.2 GT3 and guess what, I waited them out just like everyone suggested, and waited, and waited, and waited and no allocation even though it seems everyone and their dog got a GT3 allocation.
So I hate to say it but for me fighting for MSRP just isn’t gonna happen. I tried that game, failed, and worse have been without a Porsche for years now. I’m ponying up the 10K ADM and going to build the car I want and actually enjoy driving it. Life’s too short for me to wait another several years just to save 10K.
Sorry guys, you can flame me now for contributing to the ADM problem.......
I wrote back telling them to pound sand (in a nice way) and explained everything discussed here on Rennlist why there shouldn’t be an ADM.
Stealership wrote back and said since I haven’t bought a Porsche from them before it’s 10K ADM to get my foot in the door otherwise no car.
They said the exact same thing to me for the 991.2 GT3 and guess what, I waited them out just like everyone suggested, and waited, and waited, and waited and no allocation even though it seems everyone and their dog got a GT3 allocation.
So I hate to say it but for me fighting for MSRP just isn’t gonna happen. I tried that game, failed, and worse have been without a Porsche for years now. I’m ponying up the 10K ADM and going to build the car I want and actually enjoy driving it. Life’s too short for me to wait another several years just to save 10K.
Sorry guys, you can flame me now for contributing to the ADM problem.......
07-14-2019, 05:19 AM
#47
SJW, a Carin' kinda guy
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Very few new people got a GT3 allocation without ADM. I know I did not, paid some ADM, got the build I wanted, no regrets. Maybe that makes you feel better. 
I will say, ADMs for GT3 allocations, while they held throughout GT3 production, went down over time. They went from $30k to $10-15k. I suspect with GT4 the same will happen and they may go away after a while.
I would not suspect any dealer would give an early allocation to a new customer at sticker. Too many existing customers and ADM payers, so $10k for an early car is probably fair. I am going to wait. My SA seemed pretty optimistic I could get a car without ADM eventually, but he knows I don’t really care when I get the car so that makes his life and the managers’ lives easier.
I will say, ADMs for GT3 allocations, while they held throughout GT3 production, went down over time. They went from $30k to $10-15k. I suspect with GT4 the same will happen and they may go away after a while.
I would not suspect any dealer would give an early allocation to a new customer at sticker. Too many existing customers and ADM payers, so $10k for an early car is probably fair. I am going to wait. My SA seemed pretty optimistic I could get a car without ADM eventually, but he knows I don’t really care when I get the car so that makes his life and the managers’ lives easier.
07-14-2019, 09:35 AM
#48
I got an email from my local dealer 4 days ago requesting a 10K ADM for a GT4.
I wrote back telling them to pound sand (in a nice way) and explained everything discussed here on Rennlist why there shouldn’t be an ADM.
Stealership wrote back and said since I haven’t bought a Porsche from them before it’s 10K ADM to get my foot in the door otherwise no car.
They said the exact same thing to me for the 991.2 GT3 and guess what, I waited them out just like everyone suggested, and waited, and waited, and waited and no allocation even though it seems everyone and their dog got a GT3 allocation.
So I hate to say it but for me fighting for MSRP just isn’t gonna happen. I tried that game, failed, and worse have been without a Porsche for years now. I’m ponying up the 10K ADM and going to build the car I want and actually enjoy driving it. Life’s too short for me to wait another several years just to save 10K.
Sorry guys, you can flame me now for contributing to the ADM problem.......
I wrote back telling them to pound sand (in a nice way) and explained everything discussed here on Rennlist why there shouldn’t be an ADM.
Stealership wrote back and said since I haven’t bought a Porsche from them before it’s 10K ADM to get my foot in the door otherwise no car.
They said the exact same thing to me for the 991.2 GT3 and guess what, I waited them out just like everyone suggested, and waited, and waited, and waited and no allocation even though it seems everyone and their dog got a GT3 allocation.
So I hate to say it but for me fighting for MSRP just isn’t gonna happen. I tried that game, failed, and worse have been without a Porsche for years now. I’m ponying up the 10K ADM and going to build the car I want and actually enjoy driving it. Life’s too short for me to wait another several years just to save 10K.
Sorry guys, you can flame me now for contributing to the ADM problem.......
07-14-2019, 12:37 PM
#49
Race Car
While I’d agree with you the Spyder seems a better advancement than the GT4, I don’t see anything in the 718 Spyder that would make anyone move from their 981 Spyder.
Similar to what you mentioned - the Spyder’s heritage is about being lightweight etc. - for example the lightweight top.
But the 718 has the same torque as the 981, and then they go and make it heavier (eg auto start stop). Sure you get a bit more power - but that didn’t really change the power to weight ratio given the weight increase. So what are you really getting for the decent hike in price?
Suspension wise - it will be interesting to see how it drives. I think the new GT3 suspension is a positive, however, it would only be realized on the track (and if you want to track it get a GT4). The old X73 suspension definitely is great on the road - and you described it well with the “tossability” factor - you must have owned one ��. I don’t think you need bigger wheels and more rubber to maintain the fun the 981 is to drive on the road.
Appearance wise - beauty is in the eye of the beholder. For me it is a great looking car, but I don’t like the rear (butt) treatment and did I read to get the Classic Interior you have to get a red top - yikes!
Now, if you missed the 981 Spyder last go around, cat is now out of the bag - would highly recommend picking one up. Or may want to look at a 981 given the price hike!
And for anyone thinking of buying one - please, please don’t pay an ADM. These are not limited production cars and the production will run for at least 3 years per AP.
nice pairing of the Spyder with 3RS!
Similar to what you mentioned - the Spyder’s heritage is about being lightweight etc. - for example the lightweight top.
But the 718 has the same torque as the 981, and then they go and make it heavier (eg auto start stop). Sure you get a bit more power - but that didn’t really change the power to weight ratio given the weight increase. So what are you really getting for the decent hike in price?
Suspension wise - it will be interesting to see how it drives. I think the new GT3 suspension is a positive, however, it would only be realized on the track (and if you want to track it get a GT4). The old X73 suspension definitely is great on the road - and you described it well with the “tossability” factor - you must have owned one ��. I don’t think you need bigger wheels and more rubber to maintain the fun the 981 is to drive on the road.
Appearance wise - beauty is in the eye of the beholder. For me it is a great looking car, but I don’t like the rear (butt) treatment and did I read to get the Classic Interior you have to get a red top - yikes!
Now, if you missed the 981 Spyder last go around, cat is now out of the bag - would highly recommend picking one up. Or may want to look at a 981 given the price hike!
And for anyone thinking of buying one - please, please don’t pay an ADM. These are not limited production cars and the production will run for at least 3 years per AP.
nice pairing of the Spyder with 3RS!
Also did the 981 have the MPSC2 tires? I can't remember.
07-14-2019, 12:40 PM
#50
Race Car
I got an email from my local dealer 4 days ago requesting a 10K ADM for a GT4.
I wrote back telling them to pound sand (in a nice way) and explained everything discussed here on Rennlist why there shouldn’t be an ADM.
Stealership wrote back and said since I haven’t bought a Porsche from them before it’s 10K ADM to get my foot in the door otherwise no car.
They said the exact same thing to me for the 991.2 GT3 and guess what, I waited them out just like everyone suggested, and waited, and waited, and waited and no allocation even though it seems everyone and their dog got a GT3 allocation.
So I hate to say it but for me fighting for MSRP just isn’t gonna happen. I tried that game, failed, and worse have been without a Porsche for years now. I’m ponying up the 10K ADM and going to build the car I want and actually enjoy driving it. Life’s too short for me to wait another several years just to save 10K.
Sorry guys, you can flame me now for contributing to the ADM problem.......
I wrote back telling them to pound sand (in a nice way) and explained everything discussed here on Rennlist why there shouldn’t be an ADM.
Stealership wrote back and said since I haven’t bought a Porsche from them before it’s 10K ADM to get my foot in the door otherwise no car.
They said the exact same thing to me for the 991.2 GT3 and guess what, I waited them out just like everyone suggested, and waited, and waited, and waited and no allocation even though it seems everyone and their dog got a GT3 allocation.
So I hate to say it but for me fighting for MSRP just isn’t gonna happen. I tried that game, failed, and worse have been without a Porsche for years now. I’m ponying up the 10K ADM and going to build the car I want and actually enjoy driving it. Life’s too short for me to wait another several years just to save 10K.
Sorry guys, you can flame me now for contributing to the ADM problem.......
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diononiz (08-04-2019)
07-18-2019, 10:19 PM
#53
07-19-2019, 11:48 AM
#54
Burning Brakes
I passed on the 981’s last time. I was disappointed with the gearing situation and the Spyder not getting the GT4 love.
This time around with PDK I’ll pull the trigger on a new Spyder. SA called yesterday for my build although no allotment yet. I passed at MSRP and will wait for PDK.
This time around with PDK I’ll pull the trigger on a new Spyder. SA called yesterday for my build although no allotment yet. I passed at MSRP and will wait for PDK.
08-03-2019, 05:06 PM
#56
Rennlist Member
In this video Andreas Preuninger says the GT4 and Spyder will have multi-year production runs and there will be PDK variants, I'd strongly advise against overs, contact multiple dealerships, let them know what you're willing to pay, and wait.
08-05-2019, 08:42 PM
#57
I know this is not the correct thread. My apologies in advance.
I will pass on the spyder if I can get a 4.0 na 6 in a 992 gts cab.
Does anyone have any information if the 992 gts will be a na beast?
I will pass on the spyder if I can get a 4.0 na 6 in a 992 gts cab.
Does anyone have any information if the 992 gts will be a na beast?
08-05-2019, 11:42 PM
#58
RL Community Team
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08-08-2019, 12:47 PM
#59
Rennlist Member
I was offered a 2020 M2 competition yesterday at 10k adm. I'll never get that 10 minutes back, but at least I really know how that dealership feels about me so I guess it was worth the time. I find ADM laughable myself, but it's an economy of desire and that has no logic and the dealers know this. The M2 Competition and CS? is anyone cross shopping?
It actually took you a 10 minute conversation to turn down an M2 at $10k over?!?! That conversation would have ended in about 10 seconds for me, and I used to have an M2.
08-10-2019, 10:53 PM
#60
I passed on the 981’s last time. I was disappointed with the gearing situation and the Spyder not getting the GT4 love.
This time around with PDK I’ll pull the trigger on a new Spyder. SA called yesterday for my build although no allotment yet. I passed at MSRP and will wait for PDK.
This time around with PDK I’ll pull the trigger on a new Spyder. SA called yesterday for my build although no allotment yet. I passed at MSRP and will wait for PDK.