How much offset on Widebody tips?
07-29-2003, 01:56 PM
#1
Drifting
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How much offset on Widebody tips?
I just bought a set of Mille Miglia mufflers and they sound absolutely AWESOME, but it seems as if the tips are for a widebody. Both sides are about 3mm away from touching the outer corner of the tip holes, so they are probably about an inch offset to the outside from the middle. Would these be for a widebody? It isn't a huge deal to me, but I just bought them and I also just bought another pair of mufflers too so I may sell these instead of the others. Just to let anyone know that is interested in Mille Miglia they sound absolutely SWEET. Also, if you have a widebody and are interested in buying these off me let me know- they are brand new and I paid $900 for them last week to a guy that imported a set from AU. Thanks for the help.
07-29-2003, 02:23 PM
#2
Just to clarify, the narrow body and the TT use the same offset of exhaust tips.
You probably got the offset for the C4s. The offset for the C4s and the TT are different. Pretty bizarre subtle difference.
You probably got the offset for the C4s. The offset for the C4s and the TT are different. Pretty bizarre subtle difference.
07-29-2003, 02:46 PM
#4
Here's an email that I got from Robin Sun about this a long time ago:
I don't know what the actual difference in offset is.
Basically there are two offset to the 993 exhaust tips.
(1). Straight through tip with no offset
(2). Offset angle to the side
The offset to the side type of exhaust tips will fit widebody non-turbo
cars include Carrera 4S, Carrera 2S.
The straight through no offset type of tips will fit narrow body carrera
coupes, cabs, targa, and early model year C4 narrow body cars and twin turbos.
I know you are probably thinking how weird that the twin turbos are widebody
cars and how come they will only accept the straight no offset exhaust tips
usually fitted for the narrow body cars? The reason is because Porsche
originally designed the 993 as a narrow body car, and when they made the
C4S they didn't want to make a different model muffler for the car, so to
accomodate the wider bumper cover and the wider offset opening of the exhaust
tip opening they just made a different offset exhaust tip for it instead.
(Cheaper for them to do it that way).
When Porsche were designing the twin turbo, since the exhaust system is
completely different so they just designed the correct offset muffler that
will fit the wide body bumper cover and the pipework to work with the turbo
charger and etc.
(1). Straight through tip with no offset
(2). Offset angle to the side
The offset to the side type of exhaust tips will fit widebody non-turbo
cars include Carrera 4S, Carrera 2S.
The straight through no offset type of tips will fit narrow body carrera
coupes, cabs, targa, and early model year C4 narrow body cars and twin turbos.
I know you are probably thinking how weird that the twin turbos are widebody
cars and how come they will only accept the straight no offset exhaust tips
usually fitted for the narrow body cars? The reason is because Porsche
originally designed the 993 as a narrow body car, and when they made the
C4S they didn't want to make a different model muffler for the car, so to
accomodate the wider bumper cover and the wider offset opening of the exhaust
tip opening they just made a different offset exhaust tip for it instead.
(Cheaper for them to do it that way).
When Porsche were designing the twin turbo, since the exhaust system is
completely different so they just designed the correct offset muffler that
will fit the wide body bumper cover and the pipework to work with the turbo
charger and etc.
07-29-2003, 09:56 PM
#6
Drifting
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So wait, you have Mille Miglia's designed for a narrow body? I'm confused. Is your car lowered? Are those 19's? Anyway, if yours are designed for a narrow body I need to know because I may sell them to get some supercups (found some used ones, didn't want to dish out the cash for new ones) and I don't know whether they are widebody or narrow body. Do your tips touch the outside of the oval cut in the bumper cover and have about an inch or so of space on the inside? Thanks a bunch for the help.
-Mark
-Mark
07-29-2003, 10:56 PM
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Mark:
I don't know if it's made for narrow-body but it seems like it's similar to yours. I bought mine used from someone here. My car is lowered with Eibach but switching to PSS9 as we speak. Yes, I do have 19" wheels.
The tip does not touch the bumper at all, it has about 3mm gap between the tip and the bumper. Initially, I was afraid it might melt the bumper but so far so good.
I hope this helps.
I don't know if it's made for narrow-body but it seems like it's similar to yours. I bought mine used from someone here. My car is lowered with Eibach but switching to PSS9 as we speak. Yes, I do have 19" wheels.
The tip does not touch the bumper at all, it has about 3mm gap between the tip and the bumper. Initially, I was afraid it might melt the bumper but so far so good.
I hope this helps.
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07-30-2003, 01:20 AM
#8
Drifting
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I really like the sound, and since I am not alone I think I will keep them and try to make the tips look as good as possible. Do you have any more pictures of your cab with the 19's? What size tires are you running? Did you have to roll the fenders? Do they rub anywhere?
07-30-2003, 01:25 AM
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Drifting
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By the way, I think I will have the record of most muffler installations and removals in 3 days. Day 1: Removal of stock, installation of Mille Miglia. Day 2: Removal of Mille Miglia and installation of Romulus (sound great, but not as loud as Mille Miglia which I like) Tommorow- Day 3: Removal of Romulus, installation of Mille Miglia. If anyone that is not a mechanic has topped that, I would like to know 
07-30-2003, 02:29 PM
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Drifting
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I'm thinking you meant to direct that question to RT7 since I don't have any pictures of my car nor do I have PSS9's, but currently I am running just H&R springs. I'm hoping for PSS9's in a year or two.
