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Old 08-12-2007, 03:37 PM
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Used griots extractor and was happy with how easy things went. Can anyone help me with the clutch bleed now? didn't find anything in the search.
Old 08-12-2007, 07:52 PM
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I use a power bleeder to bleed the brakes and clutch. Basically, you pressurize the master cylinder with brake fluid and then sequentially crack open the bleed screws including the clutch slave. Once you have the system hooked up, the clutch takes about 3-5 minutes, depending on how long its been since you last bled the system.

I recommend the Motive Power Bleeder - Black Label. No affiliation.
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I concur. Doing the clutch slave is a cinch with the power bleeder. I forget if Griot's is a vacuum based unit... but i have trouble with them, as they seem to create a false reading if air is drawn in at the bleeder screw... The Motive Power Bleeder is cool.

As for doing the slave, I get the car safely up on jackstands, (level helps) and use a 7mm closed box wrench on the bleeder nipple... keep going til you see new fluid... I had the best luck reaching up with my right arm while lying directly under the transmission... I only had to move the handbrake cable out of the way a little.. otherwise easy as anything else...
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Get a Motive black label power bleeder. Here are some threads.

https://rennlist.com/forums/showthre...motive+bleeder
https://rennlist.com/forums/showthre...motive+bleeder
https://rennlist.com/forums/showthre...ht=brake+bleed


There's more, do a search for Clutch bleed, Brake bleed, Motive Bleeder, etc..


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The motive blleder sounds great... but I have an extracter that uses pressure (vacum)to suck out the fluid. Is there anything wrong with this method??
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Originally Posted by 993c2cab
The motive blleder sounds great... but I have an extracter that uses pressure (vacum)to suck out the fluid. Is there anything wrong with this method??
You can't bleed the clutch slave that way.


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Originally Posted by deep_uv
You can't bleed the clutch slave that way.


Steve
After speaking with the original poster by phone and thinking about it, I actually can't think of why you couldn't bleed the clutch slave with the extractor providing you can get a hose to the clutch slave. I just thought I'd read that somewhere. Adrian's book says, "A pressure bleeder is required to effectively bleed this system" which doesn't really say you can't. Maybe I got that confused with the power bleeder requirement for the differential lock cylinders on C4's. So, I'll retract my "You can't bleed the clutch slave that way" response.

Still, I feel the Motive Black Label is the way to go for ease and convenience.

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Old 08-14-2007, 10:16 PM
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Steve, you can bleed the clutch that way, but you have to keep the reservoir full at all times, because the clutch draws it's fluid about 1/3 of the way down from the top. This is to keep a clutch line failure from emptying the reservoir, but it is quite easy to draw it down too low while vacuum bleeding and get air into the clutch system.
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Originally Posted by Larry Herman
Steve, you can bleed the clutch that way, but you have to keep the reservoir full at all times, because the clutch draws it's fluid about 1/3 of the way down from the top. This is to keep a clutch line failure from emptying the reservoir, but it is quite easy to draw it down too low while vacuum bleeding and get air into the clutch system.

Exactly. The pain of topping off the reservoir to keep the fluid level above the clutch system pickup is what makes the power bleeder easier and more convenient. It's tough enough getting at that clutch slave bleed screw as it is without having to worry about going back and forth to the reservoir. But I agree, it can be done.

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Thanks all, as always the advise here is priceless.
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Just make sure that you always remember to clamp off the overflow tube!!!
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Good point Jaime. I overlooked that the first time I did mine. What a mess! Plus it almost gave me a heart attack when brake fluid started running all over the garage floor. Luckily no damage except for me having to replace a pair of underwear.
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Originally Posted by MisterRisky
Good point Jaime. I overlooked that the first time I did mine. What a mess! Plus it almost gave me a heart attack when brake fluid started running all over the garage floor. Luckily no damage except for me having to replace a pair of underwear.

Could we have a show of hands of those among us who haven't done this?
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Originally Posted by Richard Curtis
Could we have a show of hands of those among us who haven't done this?
My name is Jaime (a.k.a. Wachuko), and I am a brake fluid spiller...
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Spilled... twice... D-OH!


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