cdk4219

Carastrophic failure is what Porsche cars built from the late 90s on are all about. Most German cars, at least all of the 5 I have, are Rube Goldberg devices that are not designed with reliability in mind.

The problem compounds with German cars, especially Porsche, as they are more costly to repair. If reliability is what you desire, and you don't want to get stuck anywhere, either get a German car that is less than 5 years old and has less than 50,000 or so on it, or a Toyota, the 996 will more than likely disappoint you.

You will find the people on this board are correct with telling you that if you decide to get a Porsche, you better get one that someone has dumped 15 grand plus in "maintenance" it will decrease the probability that the car will break.

Dock

Really?

cdk4219

Yes, really,
I,m certain that boxster IMS and 996 IMS failures, Cayenne coolant tube, driveshaft, 996 coolant tube, as well as many other failures are expensive, and most catastrophic. Most if not all of these failures are much before 100k miles. Adding salt to the wound, these are touted as high quality highly engineered automobiles, and the failures above, are simple ,yet large failures.

On an 80k mile car that cost in excess of $140,000 nobody should have to remove the engine to replace coolant pipes that somebody decided to glue into place, because either press fit or threading these fittings has not proven to work?

You can certainly choose to believe that these cars are engineering marvels, make you giggle like a little kid when you go fast, and possibly your car is and exception to the lack of reliability that many have experienced, but the fact is that the Porsche line is less than average in the reliability factor. High in price, low in reliability, expensive and difficult to repair, plain and simple.

Dock

So this is what Porsche cars built from the late 90s on are all about? Really? ALL about?


Adhesives are used successfully in many mechanical applications. Additionally, the NTHSA investigated this and did not rule against Porsche.

That's funny. Going fast?? You have no idea.

I find the performance ability of my modified 996 Turbo to be only mildly entertaining. It's more entertaining than my MB AMG, and certainly way more entertaining than my truck, but compared to what I've done in my past, it's boring.

Do you own a 996 Turbo?

Dock

J.D. Power's 2013 dependability study, which rates the reliability of 3-year-old vehicles (2010 cars, trucks and SUVs.) , shows Porsche #2.

Link--> https://www.cars.com/articles/2013/0...ability-study/

Atrox

He had some hose issues on a car he recently bought so I'm sure he is just venting. Were you aware of the hoses before you bought the car? I am by no means an expert or a technical wiz when it comes to these cars. That is why I bought a low mileage, well maintained, recently serviced low owner car. The 996 turbo is an engineering success and to say otherwise esp after buying the car is foolish.

Atrox

Land Rover is biggest loser again, now that's a brand I will always avoid.

rmc1148

Land rover has some nice looking rides but agree I avoid them also.

Tuxiemama

Don't confuse the 996 NA cars and the 996 TT... 2 different animals as far as reliability.

"02996ttx50

i fully agree. the only way these cars are as mythically referred to as "bulletproof" is if continually maintained. you get into higher mileage without constant care? and you WILL have little stuff haunting you as continually as the regular maintenance will prevent. there's a lot of parts lol

rmc1148

Agree they are not bulletproof but if you read 95% of the I need help posts its people that work on their own cars and/or have done mods. I mod my other cars so I'm not throwing stones its just the more you mess with things the more problems you have. I do most of my own work and read first then do= saves on headaches/issues.

"02996ttx50

i must categorically disagree with you. my car is *nearly* as modded ( well, ok "mid level" ) modded as a car with bolt on's can be and it has nothing whatsoever to do with the modifications i have done to it, as they are all time tested ( 10+ years? ) and shown to work perfectly well and as reliably as stock. in fact some parts are even more robust than the oem parts. e.g. billet diverter valves from EvoMs. they will outlast oems by years!

it's about the age of the parts, their intrinsic built in obsolescence, and the need to "replace" them as they "wear", that and given the associated costs, many folks simply neglect. this would of course tend to be the folks that got into these cars as the prices dropped precipitously and they figured they could get away with a lax maintenance schedule. schedule!? i work on my car as I've said, weekly. whether it needs it or not. that's why it runs as it does, at 127.500 miles. it's not because 996 tt's are "bulletproof"

rmc1148

Not talking about you or anyone individually but read the posts and see when their problems start. You have a lot of people here and elsewhere with little mechanical background working on these cars that are not simple by any standards. Also you have guys willing to drop 2-4k on an exhaust but try to buy the cheapest parts available for everyday maintenance and cry the blues about it. The bottom line is you have a lot of new buyers caught up in the I want to own a 911t that cant or wont pay the cost of ownership. A Porsche is a luxury not a need and the costs involved will almost always be higher then average.

"02996ttx50

well, i agree with that. i can change a maf and little else lol. a man's gotta know his limitations. but all bets are off once someone gets in one of these and even thinks there's a way to have one

rmc1148

You step up to the bat and maintain your car where a lot of people don't= but still want to drive them the way you do lol.