nkgosselin

I found this recent thread on 911uk. It looks like porsche is offering new m96 long blocks for 2,800 pounds. About $4,100.

Does anyone know if these are avail in the US? Discussion there notes Porsche doing this as the 996 now considered classic by them. And of course discussing if porsche made any upgrades to address known weak areas.

http://www.911uk.com/viewtopic.php?t=101085

alpine003

Probably some cruel joke I would guess. There's no way Porsche would offer up a LONG block for that amount.

wildbilly32

Not to clear on UK terms, but first poster from UK link mentions "short engine". Could that be a short block as know over here?

gricec

That does look legit.

Short Engine will be short block.

That is interesting.. I wonder if it will be the same over here. 2700 pounds is about $4000

ejs1

Seems to be true if you read all the comments. Worth reading all 4 pages, some very good points by Hartech on pages 3 and 4!!

clearwaterms

even at $4100 for the short block, isn't that what is usually damaged when the IMS fails? If that is the case, would that lower core charges?

Forgive me does long block mean the same thing in "Porshe" terms as it does in American engine (IE cam cover to oil pan)

and short block would be rotating assembly and block.

I have not read the thread the OP posted (but plan to)

Schnell Gelb

"Slight problem is the engine code is M96.03" only
"since they not only contain all the old potential problems of bore scoring and ovality, coolant flow restrictions and ”D” chunking etc "
"but far better to strip, inspect and assess the old engine first "
"When it comes to re-sale prices I also think that engines fitted with Alloy Nikasil cylinders will hold a premium and that after a couple of years use those with Lokasil cylinders will still embody a risk that may put some buyers off."
Beware cheap IMSB:
"Also this week we have an engine in failed and damaged due to the complete failure of an expensive IMS bearing conversion originating in the USA and promoted by others over here."

clearwaterms

Again, I have not read the original thread - but could you talk more about this? Which replacement solution failed?

Schnell Gelb

The source:
http://www.hartech.org/porsche_996_9...t_Hartech.html

gricec

But if you were looking to use a used engine to get the car back on the road, this is a better bet.

Schnell Gelb

Perhaps.
But what about Lokasil vs Nikasil. Perhaps Porsche is just selling off old stock before the demand declines ? For that money why not get the permanent fix - Nickies? The resale value of a rebuild with Lokasil vs Nickies is a litmus test. Certaily the Lokasil from Porsche may appeal to the cost minimizing /flipping approach.
I am rebuilding an M96 now. This Porsche 'new deal' would have been unhelpful financially unless I had severe ovality+taper+scoring.Fortunately I did not.

shake1155

I e-mailed my mechanic to inquire about these engines. My car is about to get an engine rebuild anyway and it doesn't hurt to ask before it gets dropped off. I'll post his response when he gets back to me.

chamilun

great, yet another inherent flaw in these engines.....

and the alusil/nikasil etc - straight out of the e34 V8s...

i didnt read every word, but it seems that company believes the block issues are as important as the RMS..

nkgosselin

This is what showed up when I searched on Sonnen Porsche website with the part# listed in the 911UK thread.

Macster

While the company can't find anything -- it seems -- it likes about the Porsche engines -- it sells life time maintenance plans to any and all 996/997 Porsche/Boxster owners.

http://www.hartech.org/porsche_996_9...ance_plan.html

If the engines were so bad you would think no one would "insure" them.