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Old 08-17-2012, 06:16 PM
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Thankfully it was a cracked head on my 99 996 C4 Cab - awaiting to be repaired by an independent and then reasembled by the dealer, who advised that I need a new clutch and flywheel - which may or may not be the case. If there are any out there, please let me know. Now I wish I had purchased an after market warrenty.

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Old 08-17-2012, 07:15 PM
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Warranties don't cover wearable items like a clutch, brakes, tires and so on.

Where did the head crack? Also, ask the dealer, what is the measurement on the clutch disk and why do they think the flywheel needs changing?
Old 08-17-2012, 09:48 PM
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JWP - I, for one, like your attitude. Get in, fix it and move on. It's a car - just a car; you'll be back behind the tach in no time.
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Watch for collateral damage! Did you have intermix symptoms?
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What should one look for as far as collateral damage after an intermix? What signs would suggest unsalvagable status?
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Oil in the coolant tank is one visible way to identify and intermix problem.
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When I had my cracked head and intermix back in 2008 I had extensive intermix. The coolant was literally the consistency of thin pudding and the oil was like a chocolate shake. I think I was among the first on this bard to do a DIY fix of this problem. As I did not find the problem until the coolant light started flashing when my wife was driving the car I assume it was driven for a while with contaminated oil. I am sure that this was good for the bearings, if you read on the subject of contaminated oil they say even a small amount of coolant in the oil can cause damage, and I had way more than a small amount.

However I could not afford a new/reman engine, did not have the tools, etc. to split the cases and replace the bearings, etc., and was not sure the fix of the head would work. So I just had the head repaired and did some other related work. I don't know if my engine will go to 200,000 miles on the bearings but I can tell you that I have 18,000 miles since the fix and the car is running strong. So $500 to repair the head and get a valve job on that side, another $500-$700 in parts directly related to the repair ( I did other work when I had the engine out ) and about 40 hours of learn as you go time and I am pretty darn happy!

By the way I have a brand new, in the box, 1-3 head for a 3.4 VarioCam engine sitting in my home shop. It includes the head with all the valves, springs, etc. and the cam cover. You use your own/old lifter body, lifters, cams, advance mechanism, chains, scavenger pump, etc. the list price is $3,152.10. I want $1,400, figure about $50 for shipping. Just throwing it out there. If I don't sell it I will keep it "just in case".
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Yes, it was an intermix problem. Head is cracked on bank 2. I will followup with the dealer early next week prior to the reassemble to check on the clutch/flywheel issue.

Doug.... I sent you a personal email rougly two weeks ago and heard nothing from you - I thought you may have been vacationings. So you sent approximately 2 grand for the head work? It looks like I'll be spending that much or more on the diagnosis and reassembling.
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JWP

I was on vacation, riding our Harleys in Colorado. Still trying to catch up with work, etc. I will check my emails and try to get back to you.
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That's a really good price for a new head. I was quoted $4000+ when I needed to replace a head on my 3.6.

OP, who is doing the work?
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Just in case anyone is keeping a tally.... chalk up another intermix situation attributable to cracked head around #1.

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Well thank goodness they never crack in any of these spots:
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Originally Posted by GLIDE
What should one look for as far as collateral damage after an intermix? What signs would suggest unsalvagable status?
Carry out a compression and leak down test.. We see a huge portion of intermix cars with cylinder issues from the intermixed oil that has no boundary layer protection. Over 1/2 the cars that we could save have been compromised by being driven to death.

We also see accelerated rod bearing wear from intermix engines. Lots can be told by pulling the sump and cutting the filter open.

I see two cracks in that head. Both are repairable with our regimen. But definitely ensure the remainder of the engine is not compromised.
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Originally Posted by Flat6 Innovations
Lots can be told by pulling the sump and cutting the filter open.
Do you have pictures of what it looks like in the pan and oil filter ?
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Where do you guys send off the heads to be fixed?

What exactly is the fix?

thanks,

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