Any info on 991.2 GT3 RS
#61
Tend to agree. Why push out as many 991.1RS's as one can if a 991.2RS is coming?
In addition NA cars are being left in the dust ito performance by the turbo cars i.e. 488 and 675LT and however much the "purity" of NA is appealing its just too costly to engineer them to perform like their turbo equivalents.
In addition NA cars are being left in the dust ito performance by the turbo cars i.e. 488 and 675LT and however much the "purity" of NA is appealing its just too costly to engineer them to perform like their turbo equivalents.
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Tend to agree. Why push out as many 991.1RS's as one can if a 991.2RS is coming?
In addition NA cars are being left in the dust ito performance by the turbo cars i.e. 488 and 675LT and however much the "purity" of NA is appealing its just too costly to engineer them to perform like their turbo equivalents.
In addition NA cars are being left in the dust ito performance by the turbo cars i.e. 488 and 675LT and however much the "purity" of NA is appealing its just too costly to engineer them to perform like their turbo equivalents.
Maybe as early as 992 series everything will be turbo.
Therefore the 991 GT3 cars will become a world of their own.
This would make the outgoing 991RS extremely attractive.
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Porsche wont produce a car that cant compete. Makes no sense
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IMO, there will be a 991.2 GT3 which will have a 3.8L with RS intake and manual option and some improved aero; will be slower vs. 991.1 RS on track, but faster vs. 991.1 GT3; manual option will make it special; and since it's a GT3; they will make as many as they can sell... and that will leverage the R&D used to fit manual in the R, tune it, etc. and keeping it a 3.8L and massed produced will protect value of the R's. I think they won't do a .2 RS; but will do a GT2/RS to showcase the benefits of turbos in GT cars; they will showcase no turbo lag and controllable torque.. will be the fastest 911 ever to lap the ring; this will lead to a softer transition to 992.. will silence the N/A loyalists.... as they make the 992.1 GT3/RS turbo'ed. i don't see the 997 timeline as a good indicator for the current situation; which is completely different vs. back then.
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Mr. Mooty.. why are you parting with your new SSD already? Pretty good price btw. I am waiting for a black dial at my dealer (white is still 12 months out). Do you want the white dial now? Or need the money for more plush bears?
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Dealer says they get allocations on .2 GT3, .2 GT3RS and GT2RS. NO GT2 allocations !
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white and blk random serial 4 months old non ceramic bezel
white and blk ceramic dial
i am getting old
i set timer as our family did hikes in jackson hole wyoming (beautiful place, i survived with bison and moose with no porsche for 10 days). the wife ask me how long have we hiked. i look .... guess what, i cannot read it, glasses on glasses off.... wtf... i just can't read the little ticks..... beside SSD, all my watches are 46mm or bigger.
so that's why i am selling. the blk is the last one. the others sold very quickly i am actually suprissed why this one took so long
are you waiting for ceramic bezel? look at it closly, i think it's looses the daytona'ess. tryiing to be too modern and the subdials outer ring is too bright next to black face AND black bezel. your call. if you dont want the ceramic bezel, pm me. maybe you get special price.
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Mooty. I hear your pain. Have been a watch guy for almost 3 decades with up to 24 pieces in the collection at one time including a number of vintage Rolex and Tudor Chronographs.
It saddens me to say that today I find my daily wear GMTII Ceramic (since 2009). too difficult to read. In the last 3 years my reading vision suffers. Also with Rolex I find their flat crystal and cyclops date distort the view. Very uncomfortable to read. First my Sew Dwellers left, then my Subbys and now my GMTs. The only Rolex I find relatively easy to read is a black dial Daytona. By next year they will all be gone. I am currently finding my Omega SpeedMaster Moon watch by far the easiest watch, and its always been one of the nicest feeling watches on my wrist (very comfortable). Nice big dial and the hesalite (plastic) plexi is domed and doesnt distort under bringht light so its easy to read even with aging eyes. One of my least expensive pieces is now my favouirte. Apart from that and a dressier watch for special occasions and a Rolex chrono thats all I will have now. There is simply no point owning these hings is you cant even see them to enjoy them as I did with young eyes. The DSSD like the Sea Dweller due to thick crystal is one of the harder ones to read...
Sorry for off topic
It saddens me to say that today I find my daily wear GMTII Ceramic (since 2009). too difficult to read. In the last 3 years my reading vision suffers. Also with Rolex I find their flat crystal and cyclops date distort the view. Very uncomfortable to read. First my Sew Dwellers left, then my Subbys and now my GMTs. The only Rolex I find relatively easy to read is a black dial Daytona. By next year they will all be gone. I am currently finding my Omega SpeedMaster Moon watch by far the easiest watch, and its always been one of the nicest feeling watches on my wrist (very comfortable). Nice big dial and the hesalite (plastic) plexi is domed and doesnt distort under bringht light so its easy to read even with aging eyes. One of my least expensive pieces is now my favouirte. Apart from that and a dressier watch for special occasions and a Rolex chrono thats all I will have now. There is simply no point owning these hings is you cant even see them to enjoy them as I did with young eyes. The DSSD like the Sea Dweller due to thick crystal is one of the harder ones to read...
Sorry for off topic
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mhh ... 991R
why are selling 991.1Gt3RS that good? because they are fast? ... more because they are cool, fancy and safe in value or even more.
car performance increased heavily no way that you can "compete" on the streets as long you drive with 10% responsibility in the back of the mind. how many of the around 6.000 991.1RS will see with their first owner a racetrack? i guess around 20%. not more. how many are regular on the track? maybe 5%.
they will bring the GT2RS for laptimes.
why Porsch is pumping out so many 991.1GT3RS? because their customers (we) were pissed off in 2015 when they didn't want to take our 200k$; and this ww around 4.000times. do the math with around 15% profit margin.
to expand the production needs i guess minimum 6month for pre-sheduling so there is a huge gap between action and reaction.
what you can sell today you have to sell today. you can't risk to move such a press of people two year into future in such fast times.
why are selling 991.1Gt3RS that good? because they are fast? ... more because they are cool, fancy and safe in value or even more.
car performance increased heavily no way that you can "compete" on the streets as long you drive with 10% responsibility in the back of the mind. how many of the around 6.000 991.1RS will see with their first owner a racetrack? i guess around 20%. not more. how many are regular on the track? maybe 5%.
they will bring the GT2RS for laptimes.
why Porsch is pumping out so many 991.1GT3RS? because their customers (we) were pissed off in 2015 when they didn't want to take our 200k$; and this ww around 4.000times. do the math with around 15% profit margin.
to expand the production needs i guess minimum 6month for pre-sheduling so there is a huge gap between action and reaction.
what you can sell today you have to sell today. you can't risk to move such a press of people two year into future in such fast times.
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my info which leads me to cca. 6.000 ww is based on OEM supplier level info where amounts where doubled in end of 2015. i guess ! it was not included also the 2nd production extention.
how to find out?
i guess best via OEM supplier level. i had just ones an accidential blat out possibility...
how to find out?
i guess best via OEM supplier level. i had just ones an accidential blat out possibility...
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my info which leads me to cca. 6.000 ww is based on OEM supplier level info where amounts where doubled in end of 2015. i guess ! it was not included also the 2nd production extention.
how to find out?
i guess best via OEM supplier level. i had just ones an accidential blat out possibility...
how to find out?
i guess best via OEM supplier level. i had just ones an accidential blat out possibility...
For me my dealer told that this is the fact!
#73
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i just picked up a new 991.1 RS; also have a 2017 C4S... the new 3.0 twin turbo has more ***** in lower revs vs. the RS; IMO, the new turbo motors are a game changer and Porsche would do well to put these in their GT cars sooner vs. later... the power is linear; but strong.. and lag is virtually non-existent... makes driving on street fun too.
#74
i just picked up a new 991.1 RS; also have a 2017 C4S... the new 3.0 twin turbo has more ***** in lower revs vs. the RS; IMO, the new turbo motors are a game changer and Porsche would do well to put these in their GT cars sooner vs. later... the power is linear; but strong.. and lag is virtually non-existent... makes driving on street fun too.
It was fast but i did feel lag compared to the NA GT3 I am comparing it to my Gt3 with dundon headers though so maybe that is the didference. Also to me Gt3 feels more stiff and gives you a race car feeling, whereas the C2S is more comfortable and luxurious, so this is probably another reason why i liked the Gt3 more.
The C2S does have a lot of torque though especially when you push that button on the steering wheel.
#75
Burning Brakes
I test drove the C2S and i did not like it in comparison to the 991 GT3
It was fast but i did feel lag compared to the NA GT3 I am comparing it to my Gt3 with dundon headers though so maybe that is the didference. Also to me Gt3 feels more stiff and gives you a race car feeling, whereas the C2S is more comfortable and luxurious, so this is probably another reason why i liked the Gt3 more.
The C2S does have a lot of torque though especially when you push that button on the steering wheel.
It was fast but i did feel lag compared to the NA GT3 I am comparing it to my Gt3 with dundon headers though so maybe that is the didference. Also to me Gt3 feels more stiff and gives you a race car feeling, whereas the C2S is more comfortable and luxurious, so this is probably another reason why i liked the Gt3 more.
The C2S does have a lot of torque though especially when you push that button on the steering wheel.
Last edited by Laguna_Dude; 08-29-2016 at 08:34 PM.