Final Call - Add RS decals and/or deviated stitching to Signal Green build?
#61
Nordschleife Master
#62
Drifting
my .02. The decal can always be added but the stitching in deviating color not. Silver stitching in all other RS's. Good luck either way. You have to stop changing at some point. You got the car which is all that matters.
#63
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#65
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#66
Rennlist Member
Silver uprights and wheels. Assumed silver decals just not sure if too much with UV. Also trying to decide on interior stitch, assuming will go with silver.
#67
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If UV/silver wheels/uprights, personally I would do standard full leather stitching or silver if you go with deviated. On that car I would also do white gauges, but that is just me
#68
Deviating Stitching...
Porsche has suppliers that can provide them with any color thread.
These were actual samples of color threads brought by Sascha Glaeser
(then Manager of 'Porsche Exclusive' at PCNA) to the 2012 Parade in
Salt Lake City for his 'Porsche Exclusive' display. And which I was able
to photograph at the event:
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And other auto manufacturers have the same type of color threads
available to them. Here are photos I took at 'Audi Exclusive' at its
Neckarsulm facility in 2013. The color sample is 2D8 or 'RS Green'
from the 2007/2008 .1 997 gt3 RS.
Notice that according to Audi the correct 'matching' thread that they
though Porsche used for matching deviating stitching thread on a
2D8 'RS Green' exterior is not the brighter Serafil Color 1427 (the
Instagram photo at the top):
...but a different Serafil green color (less bright/more subtle):
Here is a photo of the matching 'green' deviated stitching on a
.1 997 gt3 RS with 'RS Green' exterior color:
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Regardless, the problem is not that color threads for deviating stitching
are not available or are hard to find. The problem is that Porsche has
experienced in the past warranty issues that have become very expensive
for them re: threads used on the seats. Some of these synthetic threads
have been less than reliable and became an issue over wear & tear over
time. And that is an issue that an auto manufacturer like PAG takes very
seriously. Back in 2012, PAG stopped offering deviated stitching on the
seats of their 991 & 981 until they could decide what to replace the color
threads with. I can show you many examples of customer & factory
cars that had deviated stitching in dash, door panels, etc, but not on
the seats. This is a PTS 'Lichtgrün'/'Birch Green' Carrera S cabriolet
that I photographed at Zuffenhausen in early 2013:
That problem was eventually solved and PAG started offering deviating
stitching on seat surfaces soon after that. But it shows you that they
have problems from time to time & they can be extremely expensive
since it might required a warranty repair or exchange which is very
costly. As a result, PAG is very careful about their offerings of deviating
stitching colors.
I have been personally trying to get PAG to a least one 'green' deviating
stitching that might go with 'Signal Green', 'RS Green', 'Viper Green' and
'Pure Green' since 2012. And it was only recently that PAG offered 'Acid
Green' to their .1 991 gt3 RS clients. I am still hopeful that they will allow
at least another 'green' & 'blue' deviating stitching to coordinate better
with the basic PTS 'greens' and 'blues' currently available to customers.
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As an aside, a case can be made that 'Racing Yellow' deviating stitching
will work extremely well with 'Lichtgrün' / 'Birch Green'. We were told
a while ago that these two photos were of 'Racing Yellow' deviating
stitch. And the reason is that 'Racing Yellow' has quite a bit of green
tint to it:
https://rennlist.com/forums/991-gt3-...gt3-rs-72.html
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And 'Racing Yellow' deviating stitching was also used successfully on a
'Lichtgrün'/'Birch Green' 911 Turbo S cabriolet that JupJai custom ordered:
https://rennlist.com/forums/991-turb...-ed-today.html
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But so will 'Acid Green'. That is what the factory used on this special
custom 'Porsche Exclusive' show car that I photographed in 2013:
Or this 'Edition 918 Spyder' 911 Turbo back in the late 997 days:
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I don't really know how 'Acid Green' deviating stitching will work with
'Signal Green' or 'Viper Green'. But I assume it will be OK, although
not optimal since neither 'Signal' nor 'Viper' has as much 'yellow' tint
as 'Lichtgrün'/'Birch Green'. Regardless, I would take the chance of
going with the 'Acid Green' deviating stitching on a 'Signal Green' or
'Viper Green' exterior. But then again, I am a fan of deviating stitching
in the extreme!
My dos centavos, for what it's worth!
Saludos,
Eduardo
Carmel
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#69
Nordschleife Master
Eduardo, I can't understand why some colour threads are not as durable as PAG's standard threads? Is it different quality or is it that when it's dyed to a specific colour the thread weakens? Would it not all be the same quality?
#70
of the thread that did not hold on to the tear & wear of being on
the seat surface. So it might not be the color but the strength of
the actual thread involved.
But all I can tell you is that ALL of the deviating color stitching
offered on seating surfaces initially were withdrawn for a period
of time (around 2012) on the all models of the 991 & 981. And
PAG would do deviating stitching on dash, door, back side panels
and center consoles...but not on the seats! After this hiatus, PAG
resumed its offerings of standard deviating color stitching, which
around 2012 included the following colors:
Black
Platinum Grey
Yachting Blue
Luxor Beige
Espresso
Pebble Grey
Carrera Red
Agate Grey
Guards Red
Lime Gold
Amber Orange
However, after the interruption, some of deviating stitching colors that
were previously allowed by PAG via special request (e.g. 'Acid Green'
and bright 'Blue') were no longer permitted. We lost 'Acid Green'
deviating stitching (only to come back just now in the .1 991 gt3 RS)...
and we lost a bright 'Blue' deviated stitching (which would go perfect
with PTS 'Riviera', 'Mexico', 'Voodoo', etc):
So I just want all to be clear on this subject. In terms of offerings of
deviated stitching to better coordinate with the PTS exterior colors,
PAG has now LESS meaningful options than we used to have just a
few years ago during the early part of the 991/981 model years!
Saludos,
Eduardo
Carmel
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#73
Would acid green stitching work well with gelbgrun?
#75