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After disassembling another 78 (#613) and finally getting old red into the garage, I thought l'd start doing a bit of cleaning.
Got her on stands and pulled the wheels.
This will not be a whirlwind project, more or less a slow-and-stead restoration moving forward over the next several years...and eventually getting most of her straighten around after retirement in a few years (barring any unforeseen setbacks).
Brian.
Last edited by The Deputy; 11-07-2015 at 09:52 PM.
So, l stared cleaning with simply green and some elbow grease.
Tired quickly and thought I'd be better off steam cleaning her underside, like I did to old blacky. So, the wheels came back out of the basement and reinstalled.
Did find some nice used black carpet pieces and floormats from another RL member and installed them. Crappy picture, but this will be the trend...I'm not much of a photographer.
Next up, renting a trailer and getting her to work.
Timely thread, I'm about to yank the 78 #277 from the storage garage and roll it into the shop to figure out what is up with the clutch so maybe I can drive it more than 4 miles before winter.
Removed the inner fender covers and things cleaned up nicely. And pretty happy, out of the seven inner fender covers...only one had a small crack.
Hmmmm...pretty!
After some huffing and puffing...my wife and I got her back in the garage.
Tomorrow she'll go back on stands.
What are the rear jack stands under?
Thought it was pretty obvious...they're under the car.
Okay, l knew what you were after...but being a smarta** is my speciality...lol. They are under the rear strut mounting bracket. Not sure if this will be the location next time, since the struts may get removed this winter.
Looking forward to watching your project begin. Seems to be quite a few 78/79's getting looked after lately. Best of luck!
Well, I wouldn't go as far as to say that...(but sense the Three Stooges tone...lol). However, after yesterdays near disaster...with the trailer coming disconnected from the truck as the car was being loaded, and nearly knocking out my wife as she was guiding me up the ramps...there will be no "wisdom awards" handed out around here for a long, long time. Note to self...slow down and don't be in such a hurry.
That what I assumed, not sure I've ever seen someone put a 928 on jack stands at that location.
I always place the rear stands here, rarely are they in the way:
Yep, probably the best location. I'm hoping to fab-up a set of lift bars this time around.
I appreciate this picture, since it kind of shows why the car was put the jack stands where they were. That black stuff sprayed on the under body looked like something someone else had done, maybe hiding something...so I wanted to clean it off. Thought I'd read on here that Porsche never used any type of black undercoating, weird that your car looks identical. Anyway, steam cleaned off...and nothing hidden. But, it looks much better with it gone.
The color red is like almost unheard of anymore. And it was simply amazing the looks we got while hauling old red. It was like folks had never experienced the color spectrum before.
While we're sitting at a light down by work, it really hit home how much of a white, silver/gray and black car community we've become. Out of the twenty or thirty vehicles at the light, the only one that wasn't one of those colors...was the red car on the trailer. Actually, to my left at the intersection there were seven white cars all together in a pack.
Really great looking Red '78 Brian. I'm jealous! Are you going to detail it (like the black one you did earlier in the year) before storing it for the Winter?
My blue metallic '78 is probably $20,000 away from being like yours in condition. Keep up the great work. You are motivating me...
Beautiful car. Love the color combination. Great platform for what you are doing. It is such a slippery slope too - I did my wheel wells like that too, and it makes a difference in how it looks - it's the little things that add up to make a car look well kept. I have been tempted to do a steam clean underneath, but the only thing that keeps me from doing so is that every picture I've seen of someone having it done, shows paint ha flaked off (like with your battery box and the belly pan). I just work at it with simple green and elbow grease a little at a time each summer.
Are you going to detail it (like the black one you did earlier in the year) before storing it for the Winter?
Probably not, Hoi. Just some minor dismantling, painting (the battery box and belly pan mention by Ed) and under body cleaning. And maybe drop the clutch, since the throwout bearing is making noise.
My blue metallic '78 is probably $20,000 away from being like yours in condition.
The car takes a good picture, like most, but it is probably about that same amount of money from where I want it (but don't let my wife get wind of that...)...and believe me...I'm watching each and everyone of the other old body topics here...since motivation is needed around here too.
Beautiful car. Love the color combination. Great platform for what you are doing. It is such a slippery slope too - I did my wheel wells like that too, and it makes a difference in how it looks - it's the little things that add up to make a car look well kept. I have been tempted to do a steam clean underneath, but the only thing that keeps me from doing so is that every picture I've seen of someone having it done, shows paint ha flaked off (like with your battery box and the belly pan). I just work at it with simple green and elbow grease a little at a time each summer.
Thank you, Ed.
And l get what you are saying. However, if it comes off with a good steam cleaning...it probably wasn't offering much protection or quality to esthetics anyway (meaning it was lose or cracking paint). Actually, the majority of the paint that is missing from those components...was missing when I started.
The steam cleaning probably saved me two hundred hours, if not more, in hand cleaning and hundreds of dollars in materials. So, if you are even mildly considering a good steam cleaning...do it. Just be warned, be extremely careful around the fuel tank. There is a hose that has a foam-like covering inside the wheel-well...so I stayed away from that. I did blow the rubber boot off the parking brake cable along the rear crossmember...but considering the amount of crud that was on there...not sure if it was already compromised.
Also, none of the engine compartment was cleaned.
By the way...I'm using your car as an aspiration. So, please don't crush my image of her...by saying there may be a speck of dirt somewhere...lol.
if it comes off with a good steam cleaning...it probably wasn't offering much protection or quality to esthetics anyway (meaning it was lose or cracking paint). Actually, the majority of the paint that is missing from those components...was missing when I started.
Exactly the same experience here- Porsche seemed to use several different blackout paints that vary in their survival skills. My knee-jerk go-to blackout paint has always been SEM self etching primer then matte Trim Black, but they clearly used something different on the front spindles and sway bars than they did on say, the starter or crossbrace. Might be worth making a list of what parts got the the tough, thick stuff, and what got the cheap and cheerful, 'paint it so it's black' paint. (?)
I'm going to be stripping and re-spraying a lot of undercarriage bits on #107, anyone have suggestions on different blacks for different bits?
Matte, thin, lifts off with a pressure wash:
Glossier, thicker, peeled off because of oil, ATF, and heat, pressure wash doesn't touch it:
11-07-2015, 08:59 PM
1978 #225 restoration
