mark kibort

Everyone, Im really sick of this on going debate and Greg's disparaging comments about my racing of the 928. Its always really been about the 928 being able to survive Willow springs regardless of who is driving. G forces are G forces. He has got with rob and compared speed GT times 13 years ago and found 2.7 to 6 second spreads, however, in our last outing with me on DOT tires vs Mark A. on Slicks, he ran 133.4 vs my 1:36.1. (with 175 more hp, wider wheel base, bigger tires, lighter weight , more aero, F50 brakes, moton shocks. Any single item in some races can be responsible for that much time! even my time back when Anderson had DOTs and 420rwhp , is still a full 4 seconds slower than my best time there. 3 off my fastest average. the track is 1 seconds faster due to pavement, but regardless, what does that say about the car im drving that it survived 15 years of very hard racing without a break in any season! (and only one motor change in 2008 to increase power) (aka... no failures)

The point is not about how mark and i stack up as drivers. i have the world of respect for his abilities. the point is, for me to run my times, i have to be beating on a more stock configured car, much much harder. At willow spring, a very unique track favoring, like no other, the home track drivers, Im willing to engage in Greg Brown's challenge.

The challenge is i come down with my car for a NASA weekend or something, and we drive 2 sessions each. If I beat mark, i win $5k... but if i dont, which i dont think i will, as he wouldn't at laguna in my car either, i own nothing.
But, if the engine survives, Greg pays 5k and if it fails i pay Greg $5k . Greg raises money for this dual to pay for two sets of tires... . i supply my car.
since i dont think the car will have any issues, i think we should change the $ to 2k because that's still worth it, and more affordable to me if something were to happen to my engine (always a chance) i owe him $2k if it blows up.

I'm in now, as my only apprehension before was fixing that transmission that locks in gear and pops out of 2nd...now that ive fixed that by moving the shift fork (that greg says cant move) , the transmission is perfect and ready to race and has already survived a full race season with SCCA.

So, now lets see the real back pedaling happen.

Looking forward to doing this at willow springs. Lets pick a NASA race weekend so we can do this DUAL in the open track sessions and the next day i can race it in the NASA ST2 Class

Greg..... its in your ball park now. im taking your challenge. enough is enough.



GREG POSTED:

OK.

Enough.

Kibort:

Mark Anderson has won the Porsche Cup....and his name is engraved forever along with some of the world's very best drivers. That is not an accident or a quirk. It's very, very real.

It's great fun that one day, in the rain, you went faster than he did at your home track.

I once beat Hurley Haywood around Laguna Seca with him in a brand new 959 and me in my self built 911.

So what?

It occurs to me that there is a really simple solution to this debate.

Since I've been talking about making engines "live" at Willow....with Anderson driving.....and that got perverted into another "I'm a better driver than Anderson".....

Here it is:

Bring that POS down to Willow. I'll bring Anderson. You both get two 30 minute practice sessions. And then you both run for time. You both run on your very own set of brand new race tires. I will gather enough interested people to pay for the tires....or pay for them myself.

You beat his time....I'll give you 5K. Cash. Not a bet.....just a flat 5K into your hands. You can keep the tires....they should last you the rest of 2014!

There is a "catch"....from the "mechanic". You and I will have a separate bet for another 5K. I'm betting the engine (and it has to be exactly like it is, right now....no Accusump added....nothing different) will not survive those practice sessions at Willow and still be in one piece to run those timed runs.

If you are right and you are the hero driver you think you are...and Amsoil is the only thing needed to keep a 928 engine together at Willow....you walk away with 10K......and two almost brand new sets of tires!

You are wrong....you are out 5K and need another engine.....and I keep the almost new tires.

There it is...forget all the ego, forget all the bull****. Quit rationalizing about how great you are and show me. Super easy day for you...you've spent dozens of hours telling us all about how great you are, that you are better than Anderson, dozens of hours telling us that all one needs to keep a 928 engine together is Amsoil.

Simple, easy payday, for you!

Put up or shut up.

Let the back pedaling begin.....

hacker-pschorr

Where did Greg post this?

mark kibort

you moved it.

DTMiller

winders

This:

hacker-pschorr

Here I thought it was recent......nope.... from February 2014.

https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...l#post11112363

mark kibort

I couldn't do a challenge with that transmission popping out of gear and locking out all gears intermittently. So, this year its fixed, race proven, so lets do this!

hacker-pschorr

I'm going to take a wild guess you haven't called Mark Anderson about this contest?

Ed Scherer

Needs a theme song.

mark kibort

Oh yes, I've talked to him about it... I'm sure he will do it. But you never know.. I think he would rather race the Bikes now! I think we can entice him for some Fun at the track!

hacker-pschorr

So let me get this straight and summarize the contest:

You are betting Greg Brown that Mark Anderson cannot blow up an engine in 30 minutes?

Tom. M

LOL...Mark A can look at a 928 engine and it will shoot its 2/6 right through the block LOL

Ed Scherer

Can we somehow get Ken and a PKsn'r in on this challenge?

hacker-pschorr

Rumor has it he has the same effect on women and guys who drive Boxsters.

Hilton

Unless it appears on the front page of a major world newspaper, it's not real