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So the list is rounding out nicely. Chris P. have given me a prelimary commitment for Blu82, James' former competition package car with only 3700 miles on it, AND he has an S3 5 speed with only 7k miles on it. He'll commit both cars, but will need help with transport from New Orleans to make it happen.
Still looking for that Op Art OB and the Euro S2. If you wouldn't mind scouring your customer list Roger to zero in on these two models, that would be great.
For everyone else following this thread, if you know of any concours ready 928's of any kind, please post here. The larger the pool we have to draw from, the better the presentation we can make. Thanks!
CYTH - yes a very nice car and worthy of the competition.
Nitpicking - your AC and firing order radiator decals are the wrong way round - AC is normally on the right side - or did they come that way from the factory?
Thank You Roger,
Well I'll assume regarding the issue with the decals they came from the factory that way. lol
I never removed or replaced them nor the radiator. The PO didn't either as far as I can gather from his receipts and service history.
I'll certainly be looking at other cars this upcoming year to see the difference...
BTW, I sent you an email sometime ago asking about a alarm switch (under hood) See pic mine is missing! Now I know what the odd man out connector was for...lol If you have them let me know and send me a PM and we can go from there!
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Has anyone pinged Jim/Sue Corenman... They've got that ultra low mile 93GTS...Haven't seen it in a while, but from what I remember, it's pretty minty clean..
Well, I on't have to explain I wish I could be at Pebble Beach again this year. I ticked that box on my bucket list last year! Can't do it this year, takes too much $$$ oming fom Europe. Someone please post pictures?
Remember that this is NOT the Pebble Beach event. It's 'streets of Carmel' as I read it. Correct me if I'm wrong.
It's not the Pebble Beach event, but, if I remember correctly, cars that will be competing on Sunday at Pebble used to be allowed to participate in concours on the avenue..
Oh wait, do the Concour people want to see cosmoline? I'm removing it all. It attaches to dirt.
Removing cosmoline is not an issue since it's something the dealers should have done if they properly prepped the car. Sounds like the primary goals for this show are cars that are not modified in any way. They can be restored but have to appear original.
Having judged PCA and MB concours in the past the things I would look for include:
- No aftermarket radio/speakers
- No aftermarket wheels
- Brake calipers in original form
- Stock exhaust
- Original shifter boot and ****
- All tools, compressor, spare tire, accessory fan belt spare in the trunk under the original factory carpet
- proper finishes for nuts/bolts (cad plating for 928's)
- proper battery box configuration with proper vent tube and cables.
- Intake manifold in original color
- Anything that was optioned into the car should be in place, nothing more.
928's are probably some of the most difficult cars to prep for concours. They have tons of details and lots of tight areas that are hard to reach/clean/repair. I miss my 90 GT but I don't miss cleaning that engine bay!
I am very much looking forward to seeing the cars lined up at this event. 928's are one of the most beautiful cars to behold in the Porsche lineup and so few are seen these days in top condition. Enjoy the attention, it is well deserved!
Afshin - You mentioned proper finishes for nuts/bolts, etc. As you know, the use of yellow zinc is a popular and safer way to restore the appearance of the original cad plating. Is it acceptable for concours, or must one replate with cad or replace with new? Thanks!
I don't think the cars originally had CAD plating more likely to be yellow zinc, is there a source that actually says that CAD plating was used?
I had every bracket, nut, bolt coolant metal tubes, fuel rails CAD plated at a local plating company when I was doing the engine rebuild on my S4. They do CAD plating for aerospace parts. They also did various types of zinc plating. Total cost was like 120-150 bucks.
They did the CAD plating in a way so that the finished plating would have that pink/red, yellow rainbow look to it. It looked really good, but just as they had told me the color will eventually turn to a plain dull yellow and it did, not very long after they were exposed to outside weather. But the plating is still there and does a great job protecting against corrosion. When I look at other people having the yellow zinc nickel plating done it looks more closer to like new factory parts. The reason I had mine CAD plated was because of what was being said here on the forum, but now I think the original plating is zinc. Regardless even the zinc plating will eventually get dull a little bit but will stay shinier than the CAD plating. The plating place was telling me that the only way to keep it looking nice and shiny is to apply clear coat after the plating.
Afshin - You mentioned proper finishes for nuts/bolts, etc. As you know, the use of yellow zinc is a popular and safer way to restore the appearance of the original cad plating. Is it acceptable for concours, or must one replate with cad or replace with new? Thanks!
If I were judging two cars that were restored perfectly and the only thing differentiating them were the nuts and bolts I would award more points to the competitor that went out of their way to match what was done originally.
From what I remember, even the replacement nuts/bolts coming out of Porsche no longer had CAD plating unless they were old stock. Most of the new parts have the blue zinc plate which doesn't match at all.
Originally Posted by namasgt
I don't think the cars originally had CAD plating more likely to be yellow zinc, is there a source that actually says that CAD plating was used?
I had every bracket, nut, bolt coolant metal tubes, fuel rails CAD plated at a local plating company when I was doing the engine rebuild on my S4. They do CAD plating for aerospace parts. They also did various types of zinc plating. Total cost was like 120-150 bucks.
They did the CAD plating in a way so that the finished plating would have that pink/red, yellow rainbow look to it. It looked really good, but just as they had told me the color will eventually turn to a plain dull yellow and it did, not very long after they were exposed to outside weather. But the plating is still there and does a great job protecting against corrosion. When I look at other people having the yellow zinc nickel plating done it looks more closer to like new factory parts. The reason I had mine CAD plated was because of what was being said here on the forum, but now I think the original plating is zinc. Regardless even the zinc plating will eventually get dull a little bit but will stay shinier than the CAD plating. The plating place was telling me that the only way to keep it looking nice and shiny is to apply clear coat after the plating.
My understanding is that that CAD plating was extensively used on German cars through the mid 90's and when it was discovered that the chemicals used for this process are bad for the environment the zinc plating became the norm.
I have only seen a few examples of yellow zinc plate and it looks close but seems slightly pale and not as shiny in comparison and I know zinc doesn't hold up nearly as well over time. Is your CAD plating no longer shiny?
If I were judging two cars that were restored perfectly and the only thing differentiating them were the nuts and bolts I would award more points to the competitor that went out of their way to match what was done originally.
From what I remember, even the replacement nuts/bolts coming out of Porsche no longer had CAD plating unless they were old stock. Most of the new parts have the blue zinc plate which doesn't match at all.
My understanding is that that CAD plating was extensively used on German cars through the mid 90's and when it was discovered that the chemicals used for this process are bad for the environment the zinc plating became the norm.
I have only seen a few examples of yellow zinc plate and it looks close but seems slightly pale and not as shiny in comparison and I know zinc doesn't hold up nearly as well over time. Is your CAD plating no longer shiny?
If you search on google images for "CAD plating", you will see some examples, like brake discs, mine looked exactly like that. Yellow goldish color with spots of pink coloration. They had to do something special during the process to get the multicolor look. But he said the pink will go away and it will just be yellow cad color. Mine still has the yellow/gold coloration but its dull. CAD does not stay shiny like zinc plating. Maybe right after the plating it looks nice but in a few days it gets dull. Zinc will stay shiny until it starts oxidizing to protect the metal below it. I did the cad plating 54,000 miles ago back in 2010 and the car seats outside always and gets driven regardless of weather condition, but the cad plating still looks like it did a few months after I installed everything back in 2010 a dull yellow/gold color. I have a set of bolts zinc plated back in 2011 they have been seating inside my apartment. They still look shiny and colorful. I also have a set of CAD plated nuts and bolts that never got installed, they have that dull look to them. All done at the same plating place.
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