Shmurzik

I just discovered a 76 gas station that sells "racing fuel" (see the link below) and am sorta curious if it's a good idea to put this stuff into a stock auto car. And if it is - what would be the effect?

76 racing fuel

Jim bailey - 928 International

you would have LESS power ........it burns slower , Unless for some reason you are having detonation which the knock sensors are picking up and your ignition timing is being retarded which would be recorded in the memory of the L H computer as a fault . So if no such fault , no detonation , no advantage just a serious waste of $$$ .

User 4221

The NHRA Pro-Stock bikes run this stuff. Unless you've got 12-1 or 13-1 compression, there is no advantage.

Shmurzik

Well, since we are on the left coast here (hence to 94 octane gas), I was thinking more along the lines of mixing that 100 stuff with (say 3 galons of it) with an almost full tank of 91... Bad idea?

DoubleNutz

Steve at RennSport, here in Portland Oregon, has agreat site that talks about the details of racing fuel and Porsche engines. Here is some of it content to get you started and the charts and such can be found at his link here- http://www.rennsportsystems.com/2a.html


Gasoline, Detonation, Timing, and Twin-Ignition

This column is about Fuel, Detonation, Timing and Twin-Ignition for air-cooled cars. These subjects are all inter-related in the optimization of performance.

FUEL

Fuel quality problems in the USA have been present since the EPA mandated the removal of lead in automobile gasoline and the major oil companies have struggled to maintain minimum octane requirements as well as comply with oxygenated and reformulated fuel regulations. The challenge to maintain seasonal and regional drivability and maintain resistance to detonation has resulted in motor fuels that have some unpleasant characteristics. In addition, the compression ratios in Porsche cars have gradually crept upward since 1982 in the effort to improve performance, fuel economy and overall efficiency.

The air-cooled Porsche racing engines and 3.6 litre versions of street engines equipped with twin-ignition haven't suffered quite as much from the latest gasoline formulations and the 4-valve, water-cooled heads used in the 996 and Boxster cars are much more tolerant of differing fuels.

Performance issues that affect all cars including Porsche naturally aspirated as well as turbocharged models is the constant variations in the chemical makeup of motor fuel and the seasonal changes made by the oil companies to comply with Federal Clean Air Act regulations. Not all areas of the USA mandate the use of oxygenated or reformulated gasolines, however there are changes in the fuel composition due to seasonal temperature changes. The net effect is the change in power and drivability that most Porsche owners regard as normal or perhaps the need for a tune-up. Throttle response, acceleration, knock resistance, and overall power are affected by these changes in gasoline.

Racing gasolines have been widely accepted now as the main solution for maintaining peak performance in Porsches used for DE events and competition. Besides the obvious octane issues, the main reason why most racers use racing gasoline is to eliminate the variables in specific gravity, vapor pressure and octane present in today's pump fuel. Racing fuel formulations and offerings do vary among the different manufacturers as well for different applications. Each gasoline formula performs differently in Porsche cars and one should try several brands within a similar octane group to determine which one offers the best throttle response and power. There is a big difference!

Pump gasoline octane rating numbers posted at the gas pumps do not tell you very much about what to expect using that fuel. That yellow sticker is the average of the Research Octane Number and the Motor Octane Number of that particular fuel. The RON of a fuel affects low to medium speed knock and engine run-on. This number is typically 8-10 numbers higher than the MON. The Motor Octane Number is determined under higher RPM and high loads. This affects the high speed and part throttle knock characteristics and this is of greater importance to owners of high-performance cars.

If the MON is too low, you could experience detonation during passing maneuvers and when climbing hills under load. If the RON value is too low, then you might experience part-throttle detonation.It is VERY important to realize that some engines respond better to a higher RON and others will perform better with a higher MON depending upon combustion chamber shape,compression ratio and spark plug position. Since RON and MON values & ratios are proprietary to each manufacturer of gasoline, you must try different fuel to see which one performs best in your car. Load dyno testing will also help determine what fuel to use.

These variations in RON and MON will not change the posted average octane rating at the pump. Although some unleaded racing gasolines are illegal to use in cars that are driven on public highways, blending unleaded racing gasoline with pump fuel can help eliminate these differences in the fuel used in your Porsche and raise the overall octane rating of the blended fuel. This is always a good idea when participating in Driver Education or any other Track events.

Be absolutely certain that the racing gasoline that you may use is UNLEADED. Do not use leaded racing gasoline in any car with a catalytic converter, even for track use.

Other factors that affect drivability in Fuel injected and Weber-equipped 911's are the volatility and inclusion of ingredients that attack the rubber components in the fuel system. Gaskets, O-rings, fuel lines, and float needles are all affected by the compositions of gasoline. Some brands of fuel have been known to dissolve the interior of rubber fuel hoses!. Some of these items will need constant observation and regular replacement to prevent engine problems. This is why its foolish to simply add some Toluene, Aniline, and Zylene to the fuel tank, even though those compounds are proven ingredients in racing fuels. For example, a leaking rubber-tipped float needle in a Weber-Carbureted 911 can fill a cylinder with fuel causing hydro-lock and result in engine damage as well as a major fire hazard.

Unleaded racing gasolines generally do not cause these problems since they are formulated not to attack rubber and plastic such as the foam inside racing fuel cells. This can very among fuel manufacturers.

Now is the time to mention the most common octane-enhancing agents present in in pump gasoline, Ethanol and Methyl Tertiary Butyl Ether, otherwise known as MTBE. Both products do a commendable job of increasing octane when used in correct quantities, however each has some drawbacks that you need to know, In some cases, the use of each ingredient is posted on the pump so that you know which one is being used in your area. These blends can change during the fall and winter seasons.
Ethanol is an alcohol that has very clean-burning characteristics. It also absorbs water and will scour out any dirt or impurities present and deposit them downstream into the fuel filter plugging it up very quickly.
The use of Ethanol will require the frequent replacement of fuel filters. In addition you may experience a drop in fuel mileage due to Ethanol's lower energy content. The mixture changes caused by blending Ethanol is somewhat self-compensated by most fuel injection systems, however carbureted cars may require some adjustments or jetting changes to maintain performance.
MTBE, a member of the ether family, does an even better job of octane enhancement and will not create the same fuel system havoc to the same degree that Ethanol can.
The main drawback to MTBE is that it creates major carbon deposits on the valves and fuel injectors. MTBE, being the most widely used fuel additive, requires the constant use of fuel system cleaners to maintain throttle response and power. This is a slow building process and sometimes the performance loss isn't apparent until hesitations, misfires, hard starting and rough iding manifest themselves. Regular use of Chevron' Techron or LubroMoly's Jectron and Ventil Sauber products will prevent these problems. In addition, those Porsche dealers and independent repair facilities that employ the MotorVac fuel system cleaning process, can restore full power and drivability.

Here is some quick data about 3 major brands of Unleaded Racing Gasoline that illustrates some differences that you should consider when choosing which fuel to try. Leaded racing fuels are illegal for road use and will contaminate a catalytic convertor. Unless you have a static compression ratio over 12:1, these unleaded racing fuels should work just fine, especially with twin-ignition.

UNOCAL 76 Trick Unleaded Sunoco GT+

SGrty .700 .750 .735

RVP 6.6-7.0 7.0 9.0

RON 108 104 N/A

MON 95.2 96 N/A

R+M
2 100.2 100 104

As you can see, changing the RON and MON combinations may not make a change in overall octane, but their burning characteristics and anti-knock qualities can vary enough to make a significant difference in how your Porsche runs! The Reid Vapor Pressure, or RVP, is an indication of volatility which affects the fuel's resistance to vapor lock, its ability to start easily when cold, and its throttle response. The fuel's specific gravity specifications, also affect the float levels in carbureted cars and mixture settings. If the fuels' RVP is too low, 5.5 or less, this can cause poor throttle response and stumbling when the throttle is suddenly opened. RVP's that are too high, 8.0 or more, can create vapor lock and fuel percolation in float bowls.

Here is a mixing chart for blending 91 octane unleaded Premium with 100 octane unleaded Racing gasoline

These figures are not exact due to the variations in pump premium but they are very close

See WEBSITE FOR CHART- http://www.rennsportsystems.com/2a.html


DETONATION & TIMING

This is always an important issue relating to engine performance and component life. In an air-cooled engine, this subject assumes a much greater priority due to the higher engine operating temperatures, especially the cylinder head temperatures. Porsche air-cooled engines, despite having hemispherical combustion chambers, are not quite as detonation resistant as other types.
The early 2.0 litre 911 engines, with their small, deep combustion chambers and high-domed pistons, are much more prone to detonation than the later versions with their flatter, more open chambers. The main problem in the 911 air-cooled engine is the spark plug position. Since the plug is offset to one side, there is a propensity for the piston dome to block the opposite side of the chamber at Top Dead Center. This creates that pocket of fuel and air that is shielded from the main flame front created by the spark plug. Detonation is the uncontrolled ignition of that pocket of fuel. Over-advanced timing, high compression ratios created by domed pistons and inadequate fuel quality all contribute to detonation. Further, Porsche's hemispherical air-cooled heads are well known for poor swirl characteristics and the bigger bore engines are quite detonation prone at 9.5:1 and above.

The water-cooled 4-valve heads used in the 996 and Boxsters have a centrally located spark plug that gives better and more thorough combustion with their designed-in swirl, without the need for twin-ignition.

Since engines are inherently noisy and air-cooled engines in particular, are somewhat noisy due to fan, valve gear and chain noise as well as having no water jackets to dampen engine sounds, it is very difficult to hear low levels of detonation in these cars. In addition, there exists a phenomenon known as sub-audible detonation. This condition can occur in any engine and is very dangerous since it is almost impossible to detect except by careful spark plug inspection. The engine can be detonating and you may never hear anything. Spark plug center insulators have been known to shatter and broken rings are found from this phenomenon without the driver being aware of any additional or unusual noises.
Sub-audible detonation can burn holes in pistons and destroy ring lands before anything is noticed. This is why one should never attempt setting the timing by ear. The engine's timing requirement's and detonation threshold do change with outside air and cylinder head temperature. Since cylinder head temperatures vary with the load on the engine, it may not knock driving on a level road or freeway, however passing or climbing will raise head temperatures, thus octane requirements will increase very quickly.
The factory timing specifications were established on an engine dyno to allow for these wide range of conditions and variations in fuel quality with a margin for safety. Setting the timing at the threshold of detonation with one brand of fuel, will not prevent detonation using another brand.
When the timing is over-advanced, combustion temperatures and cylinder pressures skyrocket to levels that can damage engine components very quickly. In the particular case of turbocharged engines, these can go from mild detonation to piston destruction almost instantly, far faster than you can react and take your foot off the throttle pedal. By that time, it is too late. Non-standard boost levels and pump gas can create the conditions that cause detonation. In fact, boost levels over 1.1 bar without racing gasoline and twin-ignition is a recipe for disaster.
Retarded ignition timing results in excess heat being generated in the cylinder heads that is also detrimental to engine life. Poor throttle response, high oil temperatures and low power are characteristic of retarded ignition timing and in worst cases, the exhaust system may glow red.
Automobile manufacturers use knock sensors and adaptive ignition systems to optimize ignition timing for fuel and engine operating conditions.

Twin-Ignition

Porsche has used twin-ignition in their air-cooled racing engines since the 4-cam Carrera engines. The high-domed pistons necessary for high compression ratios requires another spark plug to start another flame front on the other side of the piston dome. The best place for the spark plug is the middle of the combustion chamber. From the center, the flame front will have the least distance to travel for complete ignition. This reduces the need for as much ignition advance to start and finish the combustion process when the piston reaches Top Dead Center. Since the spark event is starting closer to TDC in the compression cycle, there is less pressure from the beginning of ignition that is pushing 'back' down on the piston crown as the combustion event progresses. This lessens the 'negative' work done by the expanding gasses and allows all of the pressure building in the cylinder to push the piston in the correct direction, making the engine more efficient.



Single plug combustion pattern

The offset-plug position on a 911 delays the combustion process. By installing two spark plugs per cylinder, you will increase the acceleration of the ignition sequence. This can reduce the required advance by 10 degrees or more thus lowering cylinder head temperatures. In terms of power, twin-ignition will add some 3-4% or more depending upon compression ratio, over a single ignition system. RPM can increase as much as 700 RPM at top speeds. If high compression ratios are to be used, twin-ignition allows all of the power benefit to be gained from the increase. Twin-plug equipped 911 and 930's run much crisper and cleaner with lower cylinder head temperatures and improved throttle response. Plus, a twin-plug 911 is much less prone to plug fouling with today's fuel.



Twin plug combustion pattern
Besides the damage to one's bank account, there isn't one drawback to installing this system and enjoying the benefits in throttle response, power and great drivability that twin-ignition adds to any 911 or 930. Quite a difference!. In some cases, it is a necessity to realize the maximum gains from a complete set of engine modifications.
The Porsche 996 and Boxster water-cooled engines has a much more optimal spark plug location at the top and center of the combustion chamber that negates the need for two spark plugs per cylinder.

Twin-ignition Hardware

Now comes the spendy part,...how to implement this in 911 and Turbo engines.

There are 3 basic methods to installing and using dual plugs in these engines:

1) Stock Distributor converted to RSR configuration. This is done by taking the OEM unit and mounting a billet adapter ring to accept the Bosch 12-nipple RSR cap and machining the distributor shaft to accept the RSR rotor. The cap and ring must be phased to the rotor alignment using a distributor machine and the advance curve should be modified to suit. Point-type units can be converted to breakerless by installing a Pertronix Ignitor. This setup can trigger either the OEM Bosch CD boxes, a pair of Permatunes, or a pair of MSD 6AL's with MSD matching coils for best performance. This setup is ideal for all 2.0-2.2-2.4-2.7-2.8-3.0-3.2-3.3-3.4-3.5 litre engines with carburetors or MFI systems.

This is the hardware of choice for Turbo's since this retains the all-important boost retard feature that is critical to engine life and proper throttle response.

2) 964 Dual-distributor converted for 2.4-2.7-3.0-3.2 litre Engines. This one is done by installing a trigger from a donor SC distributor and using the appropriate crank gear, depending upon the engine being used. This unit will not fit the Turbos' due to interference with the boost plumbing. Again, these can be triggered by OEM Bosch CD boxes, Permatune's, MSD's or a proprietary splitter unit for Motronic-equipped engines. This setup is ideal for any Motronic motor and works very well in carbureted or MFI-equipped engines.

3) Crank-triggered Distributorless Ignitions. The ubiquitous Electromotive HPV-1's and TEC-II Engine Management systems fall into this category as does the superb but expensive MoTec ones. These can be challenging to install and do require additional RFI and EMI shielding to prevent stray ignition signals that create random misfires. We use additional grounding straps and Magnecor wires to eliminate this possibility and maintain the integrity of the ignition signals. These coil-pack ignition systems operate at system bus voltage and do not produce the amount of ignition current needed to keep the plugs clean in a rich mixture environment. Carbureted and MFI-equipped engines do operate with rich idle mixtures needed for best throttle response and will foul plugs MUCH easier with these ignitions.

The other big drawback is that you cannot use spark plug gaps larger than .032 without misfires. Its well proven and documented that plug gaps in the .040-.045 range make more overall power and result in better idle qualities due to the larger flame kernel and the resulting more thorough combustion process.

These are not inexpensive pieces of equipment to buy but the performance and drivability gains are impressive and the increased protection from detonation is something to be considered in any high-performance 911 or 930.

There is a wealth of information available on these subjects and we have only scratched the surface here. If you would like more information on these issues or other performance-related Porsche questions, please contact:

Rennsport Systems at (503) 244-0990
or e-mail to:info@rennsportsystems.com

Jim bailey - 928 International

Pat ...excellent information . Perhaps more than most people want to know !! thanks for contributing .

DoubleNutz

My pleasure Jim. I realize it is quite a bit of info and I thought it better to share what most 911/993/996 drivers seem to be well informed about or have as a resource when discussing race fuels and and octanes, just thought it could be useful here too.

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MarkTbone

Thanks for the excellent information. I see this post was 13 years ago. I just bought a 1979 turbo that has been rebuilt supposedly with twin plugs. The builder was only running it with racing fuel and one plug firing. It was purchased from him and I do not know if the twin plugs were activated. The car is at a Porsche dealership getting a few repairs. When I discovered the car had twin plugs just yesterday, I called the shop and asked them to check it out. I am not sure they even know how to check it out so we will see. I may have to get the car to a specialist to check it out. But, your information has been helpful to me to better understand my options.