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Old 10-27-2014, 11:40 AM
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Hi there. Long time Boxster, 968, and 996 owner looking to buy some air cooled bliss. I have a Euro '85 going in for a PPI and was just wondering if anyone knows if the valve guides are different for a Euro car than the USA? I am aware that the motors are subtly different and the compression is higher for the Euro. Thanks in advance.
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Hi Jeff,

Euro & US cars have the exact same guides, valves, etc. Only the pistons & DME software are different.
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Thanks!
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Originally Posted by Steve Weiner-Rennsport Systems
Hi Jeff,

Euro & US cars have the exact same guides, valves, etc. Only the pistons & DME software are different.
Hey, Steve. What's different about the pistons and why are they different? (I just bought my first ROW 911 and was wondering. It's also my first 911 that doesn't smoke.)
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Euro pistons have more compression.

US cars were kinda split between Alusil and Nikasail cylinders (with matching respective pistons) while ROW cars mostly had Nikasil ones.
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Thanks, Steve! It's cool finding out new stuff about this car!
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In 1985 there were 2 motors that could have been used in a 3.2 Carrera, not counting turbo)
930/20 was the base RoW engine
930/21 was used in US, J, and was the M298 option in the FRG

/20 has 10.3 cr, 231hp@5900, 284nm@4800
/21 has 9.5 cr, 207hp@5900, 260nm@4800

another difference besides the p/c and software was the transmission
Euro 3.2 Carrera used 915/67 w/ cooler, US used 915/68 w/o cooler
/68 has slightly taller gearing in 2, 4, 5
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Memory lapse--were the ROW engines equipped with a catalytic converter on a country-by-country basis? (And then there still were countries where it was optional, right?)

I don't remember any of the new gray market cars that wandered into my life coming in with OE cats. Then again, they may have had to have them switched out. OR, the federalization chop shops counted on that as another way to pad the bill.
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Originally Posted by race911
Memory lapse--were the ROW engines equipped with a catalytic converter on a country-by-country basis? (And then there still were countries where it was optional, right?)

I don't remember any of the new gray market cars that wandered into my life coming in with OE cats. Then again, they may have had to have them switched out. OR, the federalization chop shops counted on that as another way to pad the bill.
It depended on the year
1984, 2 engines
930/20 RoW
930/21 US, J

1985, 3 engines
930/20 was the base RoW engine
930/21 was used in US, J, and was the M298 option in the FRG
930/26 Sweden, Switz, Australia same power as the /20 but has SAI pump

1986
same as 1985

1987, 3 engines
930/20
930/25 US J, M298 option elsewhere, 217hp@5900, 265nm@4800
930/26
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Read somewhere that the 87 power bump was due to new remap, was there an internal engine mod too?
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What I remember reading was that the 87 boost was just the lowest power measured in the 86 models during assembly testing.



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