Brian Morris

I'm wondering what people use for DE rain tires. Currently I use Victoracers for DE's but they aren't great in the rain once they're worn. I'm looking for a R-compound tire that's good in the rain. I think a lot of people use the Yoks and I'm considering the toyo RA1s but they are hard to get and don't have a lot of sizes. I'd also like to hear opinions about the Michelin Cup or the Pirelli Corsa as a rain tire.

Any other ideas.

Thanks
-Brian Morris
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Tom T.

Michelin Pilot Sport Cup has a great reputation so far for dry & wet grip, and wear too. While at the Zone 1 48 Hours I talked to a club racer who had MPSC tires. He raved about their wet grip. A bit more expensive but you get what you pay for (usually).

Tom

BER

I use Yoko A032R's on a wet track and am very pleased with their performance.

Bruce

Chris in Detroit

Track tires in the dry benefit have an absence, or minimization of any grooves - since to an extent grooves = tread squirm. Plus, grooves don't offer any grip

OTOH Track tires in the wet need grooving to rid themselves of the water.

So, conflicting requirements ! The best dry track tire is not going to be any good in the wet - think hoosiers in a downpour !

For my money, best solution if its wet would be to use your street tires ........ or, if you are lucky enough to afford a separate set of wheels / tires for the wet, then best bet would be to obtain some hand cut slicks like the Hoosier wets, but these will rapidly become useless wet tires if used in the dry

Bill Gregory

I know several club racers who use Toyo RA1's for rain tires. As Tom mentioned, the new Michelin cup tires have been getting some good rain reviews too.

On your other question on where to get RA1's, try their dealer locator at <a href="http://www.toyo.com/find_a_dealer/index_frame.html" target="_blank">http://www.toyo.com/find_a_dealer/index_frame.html</a>

Ed Newman

I have run the Kuhmo V700 and the Hoosier Radial Rains. The Kuhmos are a great all around tire for DE's. Like ANY tire, when the tred gets low, they have problems with puddling water. If your track drains well and there are no puddles, any R tire will work great, better than street tires. For more serious stuff check out Hoosiers Radial Rain tire. They are incredible in the rain, but CANNOT be run in the dry. They will melt away real fast.

Brian Morris

I could have added a little more detail to my question. I'm looking for a tire that I can drive to the track and get acceptable performance in the rain without losing too much if the track is dry (compared to the Kumhos).

It seems like the Toyos are a good compromise because they have a good tread but they're R compound. So I think I'm going to give them a try.

Thanks.
--Brian Morris
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Ed Newman

Keep in mind that once you wear down to 3/32 you will have to replace them (like street tires)

richard glickel.

I have Bridgestone SO-3s for the street and drove to Lime Rock in May, drove in the rain on the track, then drove home. I thought they performed very well in the wet.

richard
'87 Carrera-3.6L

belz

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Brian Morris:
[QB]I could have added a little more detail to my question. I'm looking for a tire that I can drive to the track and get acceptable performance in the rain without losing too much if the track is dry (compared to the Kumhos).

Brian-
IMHO: Given your requirements, the A032R is probably the best compromise. I stress compromise because you are asking alot* of a "track" tire.
*dry performance / wet performance / commute.