Sumitomo HTZR
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Three Wheelin'
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From: San Francisco, CA Porsche: '92 968 Blk/Cashmere
Sumitomo HTZR
Anyone have any comments or experience with this tire? Seems to be pretty soft/sticky by the treadwear specs, and its pretty cheap also.
I know Sumitomo is pretty new to the tire business in the US. But they are a huge industrial conglomerate with deep resources, so I have faith in their business and manufacturing acumen, but what about the tires?
I know Sumitomo is pretty new to the tire business in the US. But they are a huge industrial conglomerate with deep resources, so I have faith in their business and manufacturing acumen, but what about the tires?
#2
HTRZ II
I have HTRZ II 18"s, 225 and 265
Cant compare them to anything else as they were on when I bought the car. Had the car for a year now.
No probs with the tyres. I am happy with the tread and the traction. Noise comfort is pretty reasonable. The tyres feel stable. Totally irrelevent but the tread looks really good.
I understand that they have joined up with Good Year???
<a href="http://www.tirerack.com/tires/sumitomo/su_htrz_2.jsp" target="_blank">TireRack Review</a>
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I have HTRZ II 18"s, 225 and 265
Cant compare them to anything else as they were on when I bought the car. Had the car for a year now.
No probs with the tyres. I am happy with the tread and the traction. Noise comfort is pretty reasonable. The tyres feel stable. Totally irrelevent but the tread looks really good.
I understand that they have joined up with Good Year???
<a href="http://www.tirerack.com/tires/sumitomo/su_htrz_2.jsp" target="_blank">TireRack Review</a>
Dont know what else you would like to know. <img src="graemlins/wave.gif" border="0" alt="[byebye]" />
#5
Hi,
I havent tracked them at all.
The wear seems to be reasonable for normal street driving. I have had them a year, 6000M. Plenty left, although dont know how much. Ill take a look tommorow to see if I can tell.
I have to admit that I dont think that I have pushed the car real hard.
In terms of high speed driving and country roads, I was very confident with them, in terms of stability, noise and grip.
In terms of cornering fast, I can sometimes feel the back end go weak but I put that down to the nature of the beast. Rear Engine and RWD.
I doubt that they compare to ultimate performance tyres but for me they do fine.
Regards
I havent tracked them at all.
The wear seems to be reasonable for normal street driving. I have had them a year, 6000M. Plenty left, although dont know how much. Ill take a look tommorow to see if I can tell.
I have to admit that I dont think that I have pushed the car real hard.
In terms of high speed driving and country roads, I was very confident with them, in terms of stability, noise and grip.
In terms of cornering fast, I can sometimes feel the back end go weak but I put that down to the nature of the beast. Rear Engine and RWD.
I doubt that they compare to ultimate performance tyres but for me they do fine.
Regards
#6
Here's the tires I want:
Yokohama A032RS - Stickier and slicker version of the A032R
Yokohama A038R - unfortunately only sold by Lotus for the Elise
Yokohama A039
Bridgestone RE540S - really popular tire in Australia, NZ and the Targa Tasmania
Unfortunately, none of these are available in the U.S., so I'll just stick with my A032Rs I guess...
Yokohama A032RS - Stickier and slicker version of the A032R
Yokohama A038R - unfortunately only sold by Lotus for the Elise
Yokohama A039
Bridgestone RE540S - really popular tire in Australia, NZ and the Targa Tasmania
Unfortunately, none of these are available in the U.S., so I'll just stick with my A032Rs I guess...
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#9
The A032Rs are on a second set of BBS Race wheels I have, so they're for track-use only. I can get about 5 really hard track days out of them. Perhaps 8 if I take it easy, and on the street, they're good for about 6-9K miles
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Three Wheelin'
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From: San Francisco, CA Porsche: '92 968 Blk/Cashmere
[quote]Originally posted by RT7:
<strong>I had them on my 18" wheels. I used 285/35/18 for the rear and 225/40/18 for the front. I used 1 DE/auto-x, nice grip on dry and wet.</strong><hr></blockquote>
The Sumitomos or the Yokohamas?
<strong>I had them on my 18" wheels. I used 285/35/18 for the rear and 225/40/18 for the front. I used 1 DE/auto-x, nice grip on dry and wet.</strong><hr></blockquote>
The Sumitomos or the Yokohamas?
#12
I'm not sure which he meant....
But the Yokes, BTW, are the only R-compound tires you can use in the rain. That's because they actually have some measureable tread-depth. So you can drive to the track and back and not have to worry about hitting rain there on the way.
But the Yokes, BTW, are the only R-compound tires you can use in the rain. That's because they actually have some measureable tread-depth. So you can drive to the track and back and not have to worry about hitting rain there on the way.
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From: San Francisco, CA Porsche: '92 968 Blk/Cashmere
I used to have a set of A509s. I believe they were discontinued (maybe replaced with the A520?). I used them for street/autocross/drivers ed and got about 15k miles out of them. They were a good compromise between grip and price. Good multi-purpose tires, but not something you want to use for a dedicated track tire. One step below the AVS in terms of grip and price.
That said, I preferred the set of BFG Comp T/As that I had on prior. The grip was about the same, but the Yoks had a stiffer, more perpendicular, sidewall and I liked the way the sidewalls would roll over more gradually on the more rounded profile of the BFGs. But that is a personal preference. It was not not as extreme as the roll in a biased-ply like the Hoosiers, but a very subtle and perceptible difference.
That said, I preferred the set of BFG Comp T/As that I had on prior. The grip was about the same, but the Yoks had a stiffer, more perpendicular, sidewall and I liked the way the sidewalls would roll over more gradually on the more rounded profile of the BFGs. But that is a personal preference. It was not not as extreme as the roll in a biased-ply like the Hoosiers, but a very subtle and perceptible difference.
#15
Chris; Thanks for the info. I've got a post asking about AVS Intermediates on this forum too. TireRack has the 215/60 15's for $62.00, but getting an extra set of Fuchs would be worth several hundred dollars too,,,,,decisions, decisions....