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Old 10-23-2019, 12:54 PM
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Long story short, Went to a DE and now i am hooked. Going to get track day wheels and tires. Was considering Toyo. But the more ya read i get mixed opinions. I see some threads from 2017 that people had issues with them but nothing recent. Anyone have current experience on these? Or other R compound options?
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I'd been using R888R's for several seasons. Just switched to NT01's this year. I liked the R888R's and never had any issues with them. But it's always good to inspect wheels and tires after (or before) each event. the Toyo's don't grip quite as good as the Nitto's but they're close and very satisfactory especially if one is just starting out. They are kind of loud in corners on track, but that's OK. Like most good track tires, they're fairly sensitive to tire pressures and you might have to run them a session or two to see what pressure works best for your car. Overall I'd recommend them.
On my 996 I found they worked best at 32/33 front hot, and34/35 rear hot.
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I'd been using R888R's for several seasons. Just switched to NT01's this year. I liked the R888R's and never had any issues with them. But it's always good to inspect wheels and tires after (or before) each event. the Toyo's don't grip quite as good as the Nitto's but they're close and very satisfactory especially if one is just starting out. They are kind of loud in corners on track, but that's OK. Like most good track tires, they're fairly sensitive to tire pressures and you might have to run them a session or two to see what pressure works best for your car. Overall I'd recommend them.
On my 996 I found they worked best at 32/33 front hot, and34/35 rear hot.
Thanks for the info. Thats what i was hoping to hear since i can get a set of these in 245/40R18 and 315/30R18 for pennies under a grand. Looks like a good value. My first ever experience on track was with Michelin PS2's. The front ended fine but the rears (which were brand new) are destroyed on the outside edge (and a little side wall). We ran thoses at 34 hot. I believe its due to too little camber (rear at -1.3) and me asking the tire to do more than it is capable of. Hopefully.
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The Toyo R888R has been available only since 2017 and has a different thread design and side wall construction than its previous cousin Toyo R888.

My experience running the Toyo R888R is they take less time to come up to consistent grip and they are tire pressure sensitive. I run a different tire pressure on each corner of the 944.

Cold/hot tire pressures were determined from tire temperature data.
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The Toyo R888R has been available only since 2017 and has a different thread design and side wall construction than its previous cousin Toyo R888.

My experience running the Toyo R888R is they take less time to come up to consistent grip and they are tire pressure sensitive. I run a different tire pressure on each corner of the 944.

Cold/hot tire pressures were determined from tire temperature data.
Here is the thread i was referencing. https://rennlist.com/forums/racing-a...during-de.html
From what i read these were all the same production date of failure. I wasn't able to find much since then about issues. I looks like the people with lighter cars love them but some people claim the heavy rear weight of a 911 was causing the issue. From what i gather the split is even between the Nitto NT01 and Toyo R888R. In the size option of 245/40R18 and 315/30R18 that i will be running there is not a lot of options. I'm thinking of ordering the R888R and give it a try. Sounds like you give them the thumbs up?
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Originally Posted by Mbren1979
Here is the thread i was referencing. https://rennlist.com/forums/racing-a...during-de.html
From what i read these were all the same production date of failure. I wasn't able to find much since then about issues. I looks like the people with lighter cars love them but some people claim the heavy rear weight of a 911 was causing the issue. From what i gather the split is even between the Nitto NT01 and Toyo R888R. In the size option of 245/40R18 and 315/30R18 that i will be running there is not a lot of options. I'm thinking of ordering the R888R and give it a try. Sounds like you give them the thumbs up?
Rear tire wear on outside can be caused by too much negative toe-in. Street cars are set up with more negative toe-in to improve stability under braking.
I run with just a slight negative toe-in on my 944 race car.. Some racers run with zero toe on rear, but loose the safety factor of stability
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If you are just getting to into HPDE events, I wouldn't use R compound tires right away. Stay with street tires until you get much better.
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Too late! Already got a second set of wheels and Nitto NT01's

But why is that your suggestion? My instructor was the one who made the suggestion to get a set
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With street tires, you can feel the car reaching the limit, you will learn faster on driving the car at the limit. The R compound tires will 'mask' your mistakes.
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A good sticky tire can mask driving errors. It's always a good idea to do 3-5 DE's on regular street tires before slapping on sticky rubber. You can feel the break away characteristics and learn your cars chassis better on street tires.
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Posted to wrong thread, keep doing that somehow when similar threads are shown below thread I am on. Sorry



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