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I purchased a 2022 F350 with the 6.2 gas engine a couple months ago. I could not justify the diesel.
When I purchased, Ford had closed orders "for the 2022 model year". You'll have to check if this is still true.
Mine is XT trim, super crew, 10 speed trans, and more or less all the little work options (snow plow prep, locking axle, etc). Only thing it was missing was the trailer brake controller which was an exercise in frustration. I fluid filmed the hell out of the frame to help prevent it from rusting.
I've done a couple track weekends in it, and it's been great so far. A trip to Watkins Glen will be a longer test later this season.
I also got a chuckle out of having a GVWR over 10K. In my state, some garages don't quite understand the regulations.
When I purchased, Ford had closed orders "for the 2022 model year". You'll have to check if this is still true.
Mine is XT trim, super crew, 10 speed trans, and more or less all the little work options (snow plow prep, locking axle, etc). Only thing it was missing was the trailer brake controller which was an exercise in frustration. I fluid filmed the hell out of the frame to help prevent it from rusting.
I've done a couple track weekends in it, and it's been great so far. A trip to Watkins Glen will be a longer test later this season.
I also got a chuckle out of having a GVWR over 10K. In my state, some garages don't quite understand the regulations.
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Don't get the Tremor if you want to tow. Just get an FX4.
Starting in 2020, the F250 with the High Capacity Trailer Tow Package is the same as an F350. They do this for states that tax 1 ton trucks higher, so you can get an F350 (that says F250 on it) without paying the taxes. I believe the only difference is the rated bed capacity is slightly lower. Whether it's actually lower is a matter if internet debate (part numbers are all the same).
That said I think the HCTTP requires the diesel engine, not sure. Mine is a diesel. The 6.7L engine is amazing. It runs so consistently and could pull a house.
Getting plow springs on the front raises the front by 1" if you like the leveled look w/o having to install a leveling kit. Many say the trucks tow better w/ the plow springs up front, but I have no comparison. Snow Plow prep also gets you bigger alternator and upfitter switches, as a bonus.
If you are retaining stock ride height (not lifting) installing Caster shims on the front makes a world of difference in the steering tracking straight on the highway. I went with the Carli shims. Literally takes 10 minutes per side to install, then go get it aligned.
Mine is setup w/ Airlift airbags on the rear and I run an Equalizer WDH if towing longer distances. Ran it without the airbags first and just the WDH. Tows much better w/ both IMO, despite that the airbags reduce the WDH effect, I am just using the WDH for sway control really now.
Adaptive cruise makes highway towing a dream with these trucks.
Many debate adaptive steering (reduces wheel turns needed at low speeds). Some like it, some don't. I drove both before ordering. Did not get it.
Starting in 2020, the F250 with the High Capacity Trailer Tow Package is the same as an F350. They do this for states that tax 1 ton trucks higher, so you can get an F350 (that says F250 on it) without paying the taxes. I believe the only difference is the rated bed capacity is slightly lower. Whether it's actually lower is a matter if internet debate (part numbers are all the same).
That said I think the HCTTP requires the diesel engine, not sure. Mine is a diesel. The 6.7L engine is amazing. It runs so consistently and could pull a house.
Getting plow springs on the front raises the front by 1" if you like the leveled look w/o having to install a leveling kit. Many say the trucks tow better w/ the plow springs up front, but I have no comparison. Snow Plow prep also gets you bigger alternator and upfitter switches, as a bonus.
If you are retaining stock ride height (not lifting) installing Caster shims on the front makes a world of difference in the steering tracking straight on the highway. I went with the Carli shims. Literally takes 10 minutes per side to install, then go get it aligned.
Mine is setup w/ Airlift airbags on the rear and I run an Equalizer WDH if towing longer distances. Ran it without the airbags first and just the WDH. Tows much better w/ both IMO, despite that the airbags reduce the WDH effect, I am just using the WDH for sway control really now.
Adaptive cruise makes highway towing a dream with these trucks.
Many debate adaptive steering (reduces wheel turns needed at low speeds). Some like it, some don't. I drove both before ordering. Did not get it.
Great tip on the Carli caster shims, I'll get those installed.
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We’ve got 280,000 miles on our 2002 Duramax with over 100,000 miles towing a 4 horse trailer or 24’ steel equipment trailer with our 951. It’s been awesome but when we got the 42’ enclosed trailer we figured it was time to get a heavier truck. Liked the 2002 so much we bought a 2002 Duramax dually with 10,000 miles on it and it never even knows the trailer is there in the wind. Thought about a new truck but couldn’t find any and now we don’t mess with DEF and all the emission problems new trucks have. A friend bought a new 1 ton dually Ford last fall and it went 500 miles before the motor blew up. Every brand has good points and bad but we went with something we know holds up. We get 12mpg towing the new trailer and about 20 empty. If you don’t drive a lot it can be hard to justify the extra cost of the diesel. A friend has a gas truck with a similar sized trailer and he gets 6mpg. Do the math and get what works for you.
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Heres a little context for you. We rent out dump trailers to contractors. They fill them on the site and we come and take them to the dump. We limit how much they can fill them but they sometimes go over. We had no idea it was that heavy till we got to the scales. Like I said it towed it fine without issue or any indication that it was "dangerous"
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I have a '21 Ram 1500 picked up at Carmax used with about 6K.
I tow our 6,000# camper with an Equalizer hitch. Pretty happy with it. I like the Hemi and the 3.92 helps a lot. So far no issues, have about 21K on it so far, just two oil changes and a cabin filter (DIY) for maintenance. Rides smooth.
I'd say the 32 gallon extended tank it has is the biggest positive surprise, I didn't know the truck had it until I bought it, but boy is it useful.
I tow our 6,000# camper with an Equalizer hitch. Pretty happy with it. I like the Hemi and the 3.92 helps a lot. So far no issues, have about 21K on it so far, just two oil changes and a cabin filter (DIY) for maintenance. Rides smooth.
I'd say the 32 gallon extended tank it has is the biggest positive surprise, I didn't know the truck had it until I bought it, but boy is it useful.
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Where did I have an "attitude"? And where did I advise towing over limit? Some of you sound like little babies. Make sure you stay in the lines of all laws and regulations and do what you are told. Im sure you are vaccinated too. Why even respond if you have nothing to add to the topic?
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I rent a 3/4 ton diesel crew cab mid-level trim from Enterprise Commercial. Always almost new Ford or Ram. Towing a 24ft steel enclosed with race car and lots of stuff. Tows and stops like a 1/2 ton with an open trailer. Typically 4 day rental, 8 events a year at $120 or so per day. Annual cost of $3800+- is around $320+- a month which is way less than you can buy a low mileage used truck for.
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I am using a 2020 Tundra to to tow my Boxster or Cayman with a Futura Trailer. So the load is around 4500 pounds. I have a tire rack but I haven't put any tires on it yet, so add another 200 for 4 tires.
For the Tundra:
I've got the crewmax and I have 3 big plastic totes that I keep in the back with the seats folded up. I could put them in the bed as well but I have been keeping my tires in there.
I come to Sebring with Suncoast region 3-4 times a year and will be there 10/1-10/2 and you are welcome to come check it out my rig. I am a Toyota person so I was biased toward the Tundra.
7500 pounds sounds like it is well within the limits, but if it is enclosed, I don't have any experience with that, I have heard that wind is a big factor blowing things around. They do make a double cab with an 8 foot bed with extended wheelbase, there is a gentleman on the Tundras.com forums that tows a GT4 all over with that rig with great success and the longer wheelbase could help with stability.
Good luck and maybe we can compare tow rigs at Sebring some time.
Edit - I believe there are some Tundra folks on here that tow, @Martin S. I think might tow with a Tundra?
For the Tundra:
- The trans cooler was dropped in 2019-2021, returning in 2022 but you can install one using all factory parts (thermostat, lines) except for the cooler itself which used to be integrated with the condenser, but the word is it was dropped when they needed back the condenser capacity due to a refrigerant change in 2018. Genuine Cooling Systems sells a kit that uses the factory parts plus a Setrab cooler and is the one I run.
- The Tundra owner's manual states to use a WDH with loads over 5000 pounds and 500 pound tongue weight. I am under that and I don't use a WDH
- The extended 38 gallon tank is nice vs the standard 26.4 gallon tank. The big tank comes on the SR5 trim if it is designated with the package, and all higher trims. The base model SR comes with the smaller tank, and some SR5s have it, but the big tank is easy to see on the Toyota website if you plug in the vin of a truck you are looking at. If it has the bench seat it has the smaller tank.
- The Roadmaster Active Suspension seems to be a popular mod for folks that tow with the Tundra up near the max load. I don't have one, and seem to be fine without it, but since I love gadgets, and the price isn't crazy, I might get one to try it...
- 4x4 doesn't get you any more suspension that the 4x2, although there is a TRD offroad suspension that I have, but it comes on both 4x4 and 4x2 (not to be confused with the TRD Pro suspension which is a whole thing, the "TRD Offroad" is just different shocks I think)
I've got the crewmax and I have 3 big plastic totes that I keep in the back with the seats folded up. I could put them in the bed as well but I have been keeping my tires in there.
I come to Sebring with Suncoast region 3-4 times a year and will be there 10/1-10/2 and you are welcome to come check it out my rig. I am a Toyota person so I was biased toward the Tundra.
7500 pounds sounds like it is well within the limits, but if it is enclosed, I don't have any experience with that, I have heard that wind is a big factor blowing things around. They do make a double cab with an 8 foot bed with extended wheelbase, there is a gentleman on the Tundras.com forums that tows a GT4 all over with that rig with great success and the longer wheelbase could help with stability.
Good luck and maybe we can compare tow rigs at Sebring some time.
Edit - I believe there are some Tundra folks on here that tow, @Martin S. I think might tow with a Tundra?
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