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Old 04-13-2024 | 11:55 PM
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Any tips or suggestions with leasing a 2024 Taycan Turismo? Suggested options - anything I should know etc. Is there any additional opportunity for additional discounts above the 22,500 current offering? Thanks!!
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How does the current 2250 discount break down?
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7500 from dealer, 7500 from Porsche and 7500 if leased from government.
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I think the 22500 is the max you can get in terms of rebate. But you should definitely negotiate the sale price. I got 11% off msrp as well.

From an options perspective- I needed 2+1 rear seats, Premium package and the tech package. I have some extra goodies like burmester which is nice but not a must have imo. There are a lot of different directions you can go with options. It was easier for me to find a turbo that had everything I wanted than find a gts with the right boxes checked.

Wish I had 18 ways though.
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I wrote my contract 3 weeks ago - took $7500 from dealer, $7500 from Porsche and $7500 from federal tax credit, along with another 5% off sticker. MY24 GTS, with all options I wanted ticked except for PDCC.

Agree, push on a discount off sticker. There's usually 11% of money to the dealer in the car from a sticker price perspective. I was happy with my deal given the availability of a GTS ST I could write that was almost everything I wanted, so I didn't push for literally every cent I could. Your situation might differ.
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thanks everyone for the tip for the 11% MSRP discount and the breakdown of the $22,500. I'm in a similar situation of considering a preowned CPO GTS ST vs leasing a new one. It appears for the GTS ST (approx $165k sticker), the effective price with msrp and all discounts is around $126k. I am seriously considering a lease if the effective price is $126, despite the residual being calculated to 51% of msrp.

The current marketplace has three 2023 CPO models priced above $140k. All 2022s CPOs are below $115k. For me i'm looking for particular options with only two 2022s to consider (bare minimum spec) and one 2023 (ideal spec). Dealer and I still have $13k of difference to make up on the 2023 and I haven't made any offers on the 2022s due to color and that they only meet my minimal spec requirements.



Looks like Turbo are optioned more generously than GTS, especially with "nice to haves" like passenger display and light control roof, but I prefer the ST over the CT. The search continues.

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There is no way I’d *not* lease a new Taycan if there was a spec close to what you wanted vs. buying a CPO.

Current incentives alone will put the used car at a significant disadvantage. Yes, PFS residuals are crap, as is the MF. But the ability to have your depreciation fixed is important on these, as is the ability to use pull-ahead to something else in MY26 when interest rates change and MF improves is also an important option to reserve in your favor.

The only way a CPO car makes sense is if it is an order of magnitude (e.g. MY20, MY21) cheaper and you’re OK with rolling the dice on further downside risk from a depreciation perspective.

YMMV, literally, but given the current state of play, CPO seems like a big loser with new inventory out there.
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There is no way I’d *not* lease a new Taycan if there was a spec close to what you wanted vs. buying a CPO.

Current incentives alone will put the used car at a significant disadvantage. Yes, PFS residuals are crap, as is the MF. But the ability to have your depreciation fixed is important on these, as is the ability to use pull-ahead to something else in MY26 when interest rates change and MF improves is also an important option to reserve in your favor.

The only way a CPO car makes sense is if it is an order of magnitude (e.g. MY20, MY21) cheaper and you’re OK with rolling the dice on further downside risk from a depreciation perspective.

YMMV, literally, but given the current state of play, CPO seems like a big loser with new inventory out there.
Thanks for your thoughts, and that's how I'm balancing the specs of lease vs CPO. The MF is a killer right now, at 8% APR equivalent, excluding taxes and including aforementioned incentives, it's still $62k over 36 months. A 2022 CPO will not depreciate $20k by 2027. It's almost a wash if MF was a 0% APR, but MF is impossible to negotiate down that low at current interest rate environment. Residual is 53% which is reasonable

Lastly I think 2022 CPO are actually clearing at $100 which is still significantly lower than a new car with the full 11% + $22500

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Originally Posted by mdosu
Thanks for your thoughts, and that's how I'm balancing the specs of lease vs CPO. The MF is a killer right now, at 8% APR equivalent, excluding taxes and including aforementioned incentives, it's still $62k over 36 months. A 2022 CPO will not depreciate $20k by 2027. It's almost a wash if MF was a 0% APR, but MF is impossible to negotiate down that low at current interest rate environment. Residual is 53% which is reasonable

Lastly I think 2022 CPO are actually clearing at $100 which is still significantly lower than a new car with the full 11% + $22500
I think you’re underestimating the possibility of a 20k bath over three years. In fact I think it’s very likely.
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Originally Posted by mdosu
Thanks for your thoughts, and that's how I'm balancing the specs of lease vs CPO. The MF is a killer right now, at 8% APR equivalent, excluding taxes and including aforementioned incentives, it's still $62k over 36 months. A 2022 CPO will not depreciate $20k by 2027. It's almost a wash if MF was a 0% APR, but MF is impossible to negotiate down that low at current interest rate environment. Residual is 53% which is reasonable

Lastly I think 2022 CPO are actually clearing at $100 which is still significantly lower than a new car with the full 11% + $22500
I think you may be making an assumption you will regret later. That vehicle will depreciate far more than 20k in three years. In fact that may happen in year one.
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You have to do the math. Porsche is suggesting that a $140 car at those rates will lose nearly 70k in value and at a discount taking 29k off msrp about 1k/mo... then the MF is another 600/mo. Then sales tax.

Lease is probably the better option right now due to the incentives on the front end and tax credit/rebate. Plus protection on the downside values, which is a real risk it may be worth less than 53% in 3 years.

Consider these cars an appliance with a monthly fee.
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It depends why you're buying the car. If for an investment then you should buy apple stock. I just bought my 4th Taycan yesterday. I've had them since 2021 but drive a lot. My first one I paid $25,000 over sticker. This one I got the $22500 off plus a bit more from the dealer. I set up a one year lease so at the end if the price drops too much I'll give it back, but if not I'll either buy it or trade it with some equity. I got a turbo s cross turismo with over $60,000 in options and it's great. I drive 100 miles a day so I need all the extras. In the end I know I will have a great ride for the year and will have enjoyed every minute with no additional cost. You can't get a better electric car but you certainly can get a cheaper one if that's your goal.
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Please pardon me for being dense. Can someone explain the $7500 from the dealer? I understand the factory rebate and the $7500 if leased. But is there a third rebate from the dealer? Plus whatever can be negotiated down from MSRP? Sorry for the basic question. Thanks.

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7500 from dealer, 7500 from Porsche and 7500 if leased from government.
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Please pardon me for being dense. Can someone explain the $7500 from the dealer? I understand the factory rebate and the $7500 if leased. But is there a third rebate from the dealer? Plus whatever can be negotiated down from MSRP? Sorry for the basic question. Thanks.
Yes, 3rd rebate of 7500 comes from dealer. You can also negotiate base msrp.
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Old 04-27-2024 | 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by johnarpy
It depends why you're buying the car. If for an investment then you should buy apple stock. I just bought my 4th Taycan yesterday. I've had them since 2021 but drive a lot. My first one I paid $25,000 over sticker. This one I got the $22500 off plus a bit more from the dealer. I set up a one year lease so at the end if the price drops too much I'll give it back, but if not I'll either buy it or trade it with some equity. I got a turbo s cross turismo with over $60,000 in options and it's great. I drive 100 miles a day so I need all the extras. In the end I know I will have a great ride for the year and will have enjoyed every minute with no additional cost. You can't get a better electric car but you certainly can get a cheaper one if that's your goal.
I'd be open to leasing but I drive about 25,000 miles a year so I'll not only get whacked by the MF but also the overage on the mileage. But this is my business vehicle so the federal govt and the state take 50% of the depreciation hit.


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