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Old Oct 2, 2023 | 11:42 AM
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"The US Department of Transportation is authorizing $100 million to “repair and replace existing but non-operational, electric vehicle (EV) charging infrastructure.”
https://www.theverge.com/2023/9/13/2...infrastructure

First, EA does a shoddy job. Then we reward EA for the shoddy job.




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Old Oct 2, 2023 | 03:49 PM
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Then there was the recent, famous, "Granholm Incident":

https://www.motortrend.com/news/ener...trip-incident/

(Just completed a 1800+ mile road trip. Zero issues with Tesla Superchargers. I even used EA once. After several swipes with two different credit cards, it actually worked.)

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Old Oct 2, 2023 | 07:31 PM
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That DOE ICE'in incident was truly beyond parody.

Although this DOT funding is impressively confusing:
  1. Grant applications are limited to state DOTs and local gov'ts.
  2. The grant money though can be used for privately owned chargers, both L2 and DCFC.
  3. Only once the application period closes on Nov 13 will grant decisions be made. So add another month or so on that.
  4. Then the state DOTs and local gov'ts need to dole out the $ to the charger owners and the contractors to perform the work.
  5. The federal share of each project is limited to 80%, so the remaining 20% has to be paid for by the grant recipient (or perhaps indirectly by the owner of the charger).
  6. Chargers must be operational within 12 months, although within 12 months of what date I'm not sure.
BTW, this is what all the news articles are attempting to summarize:
https://highways.dot.gov/newsroom/bi...er-reliability
... but looks like they didn't click through to the details.
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Old Oct 2, 2023 | 08:32 PM
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I am going to go out on the limb here! I am an early adopter - have my MY Taycan since 5/21. Love the car and am fairly certain I will purchase off lease in 8/24. That said, this is not a car to road trip. Charging infrastructure is not up to the task. I believe the major reason that i love the car is because it is a third car that I don't have to depend on. Just my 2c.
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Old Oct 3, 2023 | 05:09 AM
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Every vehicle has its optimal use cases, and it's wonderful that the Taycan serves your needs effectively.
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...Then the state DOTs and local gov'ts need to dole out the $ to the charger owners and the contractors to perform the work....
We know how that is going to playout. My neighboring state has a bridge builder as their consultant for their EV infrastructure. The company owner happens to be the State Secretary of Transportation’s ... (your choice of relationships)

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Old Oct 5, 2023 | 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by 991carreradriver
I am going to go out on the limb here! I am an early adopter - have my MY Taycan since 5/21...it is a third car that I don't have to depend on. Just my 2c.
All of us are (to some degree or other) enamored with our Taycans. If not we won't be on this forum. But having a unreliable/undependable vehicle is not an optimal situation, right?
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Old Oct 6, 2023 | 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by 991carreradriver
I am going to go out on the limb here! I am an early adopter - have my MY Taycan since 5/21. Love the car and am fairly certain I will purchase off lease in 8/24. That said, this is not a car to road trip. Charging infrastructure is not up to the task. I believe the major reason that i love the car is because it is a third car that I don't have to depend on. Just my 2c.
I respectfully disagree, I have road tripped the car, about 1/2 of the 20k miles on the car is road tripping. for the most part I have had little issues on those trips once porsche figured out the software glitch that was preventing the car from using the EA chargers.
the biggest issues facing road trippers in any EV is the congestion at the chargers. there are many people who are using the EA chargers as their primary source of charging and many of those people have little understanding of how the charging process works. they will sit on the charger longer than they should trying to get the car up to 100% SOC not realizing how slow the charging gets because of the tapering of speed over 80% or so. because the expansion of the L3 charging infrastructure is not keeping pace with the number of EVs being sold the congestion at the chargers will only become worse.
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