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Old 09-19-2022, 01:19 PM
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Just received the following regarding the 20k service interval on my 2021 TSS from my south FL Porsche dealer:



Cost $857.25

I think the only important thing is the flushing of the brake system, but does it really need it at 20k miles?

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Not bad for a 20k mile service.
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I think I prepaid for my 2 year in the deal for like 1/2 that.... is what it is, I'm ok with someone spending a few hours looking over things and making sure its good.
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I paid around $300 for the service. Bought my own wiper blades and filter from Suncoast, told them to skip the brake flush unless the fluid tested out bad. It didn't, at 1 year / 18.5K.
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Originally Posted by pieter97
Just received the following regarding the 20k service interval on my 2021 TSS from my south FL Porsche dealer:



Cost $857.25

I think the only important thing is the flushing of the brake system, but does it really need it at 20k miles?
Flushing the brakes might be a good idea. Brake fluid is hydroscopic. AFAIK the adaptive cruise uses fluid from ABS brake reservoir for braking.

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Originally Posted by usctrojanGT3
Not bad for a 20k mile service.
Especially since ICE is about $750!
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Originally Posted by pieter97
Just received the following regarding the 20k service interval on my 2021 TSS from my south FL Porsche dealer:



Cost $857.25

I think the only important thing is the flushing of the brake system, but does it really need it at 20k miles?
While brake fluid does degrade over time it does not happen in 20K miles. Every 4 or 5 years is reasonable. I have never changed the brake fluid in any of my vehicles and some had well over 100k miles on them when selling and never had any brake problems. Everything else on that list can easily be done yourself.
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Originally Posted by CapitalAL
While brake fluid does degrade over time it does not happen in 20K miles. Every 4 or 5 years is reasonable. I have never changed the brake fluid in any of my vehicles and some had well over 100k miles on them when selling and never had any brake problems. Everything else on that list can easily be done yourself.
Meh, 4-5 years is unlikely unless you live in a very arid climate. I'd say 2 years you'd likely be over 4% and needing a flush.

It's not degrading, it's absorbing moisture.
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Originally Posted by pieter97
Just received the following regarding the 20k service interval on my 2021 TSS from my south FL Porsche dealer:



Cost $857.25

I think the only important thing is the flushing of the brake system, but does it really need it at 20k miles?
UMMMM - it's an EV - this is way over priced for doing an "inspection" - the only process of ANY substance there is the brake flush…
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Originally Posted by daveo4porsche
UMMMM - it's an EV - this is way over priced for doing an "inspection" - the only process of ANY substance there is the brake flush…
Sounds like OP's dealer is doing a good job of upselling. I wonder what the factory maintenance schedule requires? Brake fluid replacement is generally a time-based event (i.e. every 2 years), not a mileage-based event.
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Originally Posted by aCayenneFan
Sounds like OP's dealer is doing a good job of upselling. I wonder what the factory maintenance schedule requires? Brake fluid replacement is generally a time-based event (i.e. every 2 years), not a mileage-based event.
the list is from the Porsche dealers service list for 20k miles - Porsche is throwing the dealers/service a bone because EV's have way way way less after sales service needs vs. ICE's - other EV manufacturers are less ambitious than Porsche and Porsche's customers are less price sensitive

but honestly none of this other than brake fluid after 2 years is required.

it's a good gig and good money if you can get it.
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A simple tester like this one below is all you need to determine when to flush brake fluid, especially for a car that is used solely on the street and not the track:

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Personally, I will skip the dealer inspection and log in my own inspection on Carfax. I will change all filters, wipers and other consumable parts, along with blowing out all drain lines. I routinely do my own maintenance on my track car, so I am comfortable skipping the dealer work.
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Originally Posted by 991carreradriver
A simple tester like this one below is all you need to determine when to flush brake fluid, especially for a car that is used solely on the street and not the track:

https://www.amazon.com/OTC-Tools-459...23158893&psc=1

Personally, I will skip the dealer inspection and log in my own inspection on Carfax. I will change all filters, wipers and other consumable parts, along with blowing out all drain lines. I routinely do my own maintenance on my track car, so I am comfortable skipping the dealer work.
How do you go about logging the inspection on Carfax? Do you need to be a registered repair shop or can anyone do it?
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Originally Posted by CapitalAL
How do you go about logging the inspection on Carfax? Do you need to be a registered repair shop or can anyone do it?
Anyone can create an account. You list your vehicles, VIN etc. and enter the service information that you perform DIY. It will also integrate with repair shop entries. You can even upload your invoices for parts to prove the work was performed. Contemporaneous entries are very hard to refute by a manufacturer.
For example, I will take the OP's invoice, scan and create a checklist. I will date and initial the work performed and upload it with the invoices for purchased parts, filters, brake fluid and so on.

I leased my Taycan. As an early adopter, I was concerned about residual value if I purchased - now not so much. I will purchase this vehicle at the lease end and keep it for a few more years. It is a very high spec for a RWD and would cost well over $30k to replace it new with a RWD, given the loss of the MSRP discount I received, Federal tax credit, base price increase, option price increase, cost of money and probable Admin add on. I am not even factoring in that my residual is probably $10-15k less than a dealer will give me for it in 22 months. Plus my car only has 10k miles on it and other than one LTE comm issue, now resolved it has been trouble free.

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Old 09-24-2022, 11:42 AM
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All that - and they don't even rotate the tires?

About the only routine maintenance an EV should need is tire rotation/air pressure checks, and adding windshield washer fluid as needed. Cabin filter every few years too.


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