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Old Aug 17, 2022 | 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by usctrojanGT3
I believe that I'll qualify for the rebate because my $10k deposit for my Taycan is non-refundable which the dealer called it a down payment on the car and they ran my credit (only way to get it back is if I find a replacement buyer otherwise the dealer keeps the $10k) as long as I buy the car before 12/31/22. The dealer is located in Virginia and looks like the deposit/down payment is non refundable if I just change my mind and cancel.
If you have a non refundable deposit on the car along with a signed sales agreement that occurred prior to President Biden signing the law into effect, don’t you have all of 2023 in order to take delivery?
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Old Aug 17, 2022 | 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by thebishman
If you have a non refundable deposit on the car along with a signed sales agreement that occurred prior to President Biden signing the law into effect, don’t you have all of 2023 in order to take delivery?
Unfortunately none of us know ANYTHING about how the exact language of this confusingly worded law will be interpreted and applied by the IRS come tax filing time next year. We are all completely at their mercy when it comes to claiming the full EV tax credit on a purchase being made during the ambiguous in between period.
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Old Aug 17, 2022 | 04:50 PM
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And I'm sure one of the 87K new IRS agents will be happy to explain it to you....
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Old Aug 17, 2022 | 04:53 PM
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And I'm sure one of the 87K new IRS agents will be happy to explain it to you....
​​​​​​... In the form of an unwanted surprise IRS audit 👎🏽
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Old Aug 17, 2022 | 05:03 PM
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Something tells me that there might be a few IRS clarifications coming out in the next few months. Maybe Joe Manchin can help explain it.
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Old Aug 18, 2022 | 01:52 PM
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EV tax credits just got totally revamped. Here's what car buyers need to know
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Old Aug 19, 2022 | 08:39 AM
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With all the emphasis on reducing combustion engines to effect improvement in climate change, this bill will not help and most likely will hurt some of us on the fence about buying an EV. Stupid thinking by some stupid people in congress. Time for change.
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Old Aug 19, 2022 | 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by edkwon
Unfortunately none of us know ANYTHING about how the exact language of this confusingly worded law will be interpreted and applied by the IRS come tax filing time next year. We are all completely at their mercy when it comes to claiming the full EV tax credit on a purchase being made during the ambiguous in between period.
You are absolutely correct. When tax legislation is passed it always contains ambiguous language. This language is then interpreted by the IRS and published as a "Technical Correction Act". Often times, the technical corrections are quite different from the legislation. For example, the original legislation creating the PPP program was silent as to taxability on the forgiveness. The IRS interpreted the forgiveness as a taxable event. It took new legislation to move the IRS off that position.

Unfortunately, the EV credit is no longer available for Porsche as the MSRP must be less than $55k for cars and $80k for SUV's. The transition rule will largely be governed by what constitutes a "binding contract", which is state driven. Perhaps the industry will lower MSRP's and we will all pay a market driven price, which is what we are doing now anyway. I can see it now, a Taycan with an MSRP of $40K, and a market driven price of $140K.
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Old Aug 19, 2022 | 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by mjsporsche
With all the emphasis on reducing combustion engines to effect improvement in climate change, this bill will not help and most likely will hurt some of us on the fence about buying an EV. Stupid thinking by some stupid people in congress. Time for change.
I want a text credit for buying an EV, no question. But at a high level, the new limits on the tax credits make sense:

No more 200K units cap. Great.
Partial credit for used cars. Great.
No credit if you make a ton of money. Prevents wealth transfer to those who don't need it and won't prevent us relatively wealthy folks from going EV
No credit for expensive vehicles. Same, though I wish the cap was a bit higher and that the benefits slowly faded instead of simply disappearing at $55K/$80K, since $55K doesn't buy much of an EV these days
Assembled in the US requirement. Sounds like protecting US producers, not promoting EV adoption. Sad face.
US derived batteries. Again sounds like protecting US producers, not promoting EV adoption. Sad face.

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Old Aug 19, 2022 | 07:16 PM
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So when does the $150K income limitation kick in? Is it now or after 2022? Is it AGI or total income from all sources?
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Old Aug 19, 2022 | 07:50 PM
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So when does the $150K income limitation kick in? Is it now or after 2022? Is it AGI or total income from all sources?
Starts for cars purchased in 2023. The $150k income limit is for single filers, $225k for head of household, and $300k for married filing jointly.

https://www.thedrive.com/news/heres-...cle-tax-credit

I'm pretty happy the bill removed the 200k vehicle cap. It was pretty unfair to the early adopters (i.e., Tesla and GM).

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Old Aug 19, 2022 | 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by whiz944
Starts for cars purchased in 2023. The $150k income limit is for single filers, $225k for head of household, and $300k for married filing jointly.

https://www.thedrive.com/news/heres-...cle-tax-credit

I'm pretty happy the bill removed the 200k vehicle cap. It was pretty unfair to the early adopters (i.e., Tesla and GM).
I guess it doesn't matter because I was looking at the Audi e-Tron GT and Audi says none of their cars now qualify even in 2022 except the Q5 Hybrid. But the income limit is just more class warfare from the Dumbocrats, it is their bread and butter.
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Old Aug 19, 2022 | 08:04 PM
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What if it is not an individual purchasing the EV? But an LLC or C corp?

Do the income limitations still apply?
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Old Aug 19, 2022 | 09:19 PM
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The intent is to make everyone a criminal. If your politics don't align, you'll be painted as a dirt bag charged with tax evasion.
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Old Aug 20, 2022 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by j.w.s
…Again sounds like protecting US producer, not promoting EV adoption. Sad face.
For Taycan buyers, this EV credit discussion is moot.

Now, only EVs assembled in North America qualify for the credits.”

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