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Old 07-21-2022, 11:31 AM
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Default Cold weather range (aka MN winter)

Quick question for those that have had their Taycan through a cold winter, how bad of a range hit did you have? I know I have read it averages a 40% hit for most BEVs, but is that reality? Asking because I may be moving back to Minnesota in the next year or two and trying to see what I may be in for. TIA! (I have a 4S CT on order with the 21" wheels)
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My Audi etron experiences around a 33% reduction in range in very cold weather. Add in wind and precipitation and it’s probably 40%..
You can mitigate this somewhat by setting the interval timing to finish charging just before you leave so that the battery is warmed via the ‘charger’ along with warming the cabin whilst still plugged in.
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It's really all about battery temp and heat pump usage. I'd say 30%+- but depends on how you drive. 275mi range on a warm summer day could become 200mi on a cold winter day easily.

Short trips where you start with a cold battery and the heat pump has to run hard your consumption will be really high. Longer drives where the heat pump isn't running as hard and the battery has some time to get warm it's not as bad.

Agree with @thebishman, make it habit in the winter to charge daily and end charging right before your commute so the battery has decent heat, it definitely helps.
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Originally Posted by smohr33
It's really all about battery temp and heat pump usage. I'd say 30%+- but depends on how you drive. 275mi range on a warm summer day could become 200mi on a cold winter day easily.

Short trips where you start with a cold battery and the heat pump has to run hard your consumption will be really high. Longer drives where the heat pump isn't running as hard and the battery has some time to get warm it's not as bad.

Agree with @thebishman, make it habit in the winter to charge daily and end charging right before your commute so the battery has decent heat, it definitely helps.
Do you think a heated garage would have the same effect? I don't leave the house at a set time every day, so having it complete a charge right before I leave may be difficult.
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Originally Posted by TXSchnee
Do you think a heated garage would have the same effect? I don't leave the house at a set time every day, so having it complete a charge right before I leave may be difficult.
It's the charging that really heats up the pack, not so much the ambient, but the ambient will help to maintain the heat if you charge overnight.

My electricity tariff is lowest from 11PM-6AM, so my car is always set to finish charging at 6AM. Even if I'm not in the car till 9AM, the battery is still over 60-70F on cold days due to the ~9kW charge for a couple hours. Makes a big difference vs not charging and having a 30-40F pack.

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My experience last winter in the NE was around 25% reduction. I noticed that that applied to DD. Highway miles (>100mi) was about 18%. Air density is much greater in the colder temps and has a profound effect on EV's, aircraft wings etc.
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Originally Posted by TXSchnee
Do you think a heated garage would have the same effect? I don't leave the house at a set time every day, so having it complete a charge right before I leave may be difficult.
As you back out of a warm garage in January.....you literally can watch the range 'guess-o-meter' drop like a rock. As long as you are aware of that you'll be fine.



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