SS22

Comparing the Taycan to the old first gen Panamera? Really? Of course Taycan’s PCM 6 and new tech is better than the old PCM 3 or 4 that’s in first gen 970 Panamera. How is that even a fair comparison or a surprise?! The 971 Panamera’s also have advanced touchscreens and tech, and the 2022 MYs now get the same PCM 6 as the Taycan. As for performance, once again, the 970 Panamera S E-Hybrid (there was no such thing as Pan 4S E-Hybrid in 2016) is not that impressive compared to today’s e-hybrid Panameras (I believe the 970 S E-Hybrid has 416hp and does 0-60 in 5.2 seconds). Obviously that is no match for a Taycan 4S. It’s also no match for the new Panameras. The first-ever Panamera 4S E-Hybrid (debut MY 2021 with 552hp and 3.2 second 0-60) is actually faster than the Taycan 4S. Anyways, I’m glad you’re enjoying the loaner but I’d imagine that you’d be similarly impressed with the tech, touchscreen, speed, and performance of the new Panamera 4S E-Hybrid if you drove that one.

Joegovette

I have yet to see a Cross Turismo here in AZ. The 4S is fast, but the Turbo and Turbo S would just add to the fun.

az2au

I saw one yesterday for the first time. Happy Valley and Pima in Scottsdale. Wasn't able to tell if the plates were local or not. Mamba Green.

Joegovette

I am in Queen Creek and don't make it out to Scottsdale too often. There is always a variety of higher end cars when I do go out there. Mamba Green looks pretty good.

cometguy

Correct: no such thing as a 2016 Panamera 4S E-Hybrid; it was simply the Panamera S E-Hybrid (rear-wheel-drive only, which is one reason I didn't consider it seriously before getting my 2018 Panamera 4 E-Hybrid ST). I find the infotainment system in the current (2018-2021) generation of Panameras (and other 4-door Porsches) to be far superior to that in the Taycan, including especially how the map is projected. I hope it's not true that the MY2022 four-door Porsches are going with the Taycan screen's looks and faults.

SS22

Glad you’re enjoying your 971 4EHST! All Porsche models except the Macan have transferred to PCM 6 now for the 2022 MY. But I believe it is an improved version and shouldn’t have the old Taycan faults (still waiting for my ‘22 Panamera 4S E-Hybrid).

pascalemod

Not OP, but I tried it - with glass roof very good seating (im 185cm tall, so thats 6 feet with change?) - and I can sit behind myself.

And, perhaps also because no one bothered, I will tell you having tried - a bicycle with removed front wheel fit inside the taycan trunk. A Time Trial race bike for triathlon, so any sport bicycle will fit. Not mountain bike though. Still, for massive size of taycan it is tiny luggage space. Frunk - smaller than my 911.

Yes, I also agree with this. The headlights of Taycan to me look superb. Not too crazy, not too big. They dont look like melted vegetables. Pill shaped.. No grille. The way Audi designed this body to me shows just how much of a different angle the have and how it does not age well. I think of Taycan a Miura-esque car that has beautiful proportions. They knew that tech of Taycan will age, so they had the foresight to make it 1) beautiful and 2) a good drivers cars. I think this was a good hedge for POrsche as they cant afford to have crappy cars that dilute what is a very precious brand image to them. Numerous Porsche reliability issues aside of course.