usctrojanGT3

Does the EA chargers on the way to Vegas work (in Victorville, Barstow, and Baker)?

daveo4porsche

the answer for all things EA is: "maybe"

Drifting

LOL

I'm really looking forward to owning a BEV 718 in 2-3 years, yet grateful to currently own a Tesla M3P because I wouldn't want to deal with the current mediocre charging options for non Tesla owners,

XLR82XS

LOL? EV not BEV. DC charging options aren't that bad depending where you live - check the EA station map. North Dakota and Alaska may be a problem for DC. I owned a 3 and sold it for a Taycan.

Drifting

BEV and EV are synonyms, so you should check your ego a bit.

there are countless horror stories of people getting stranded even in the past 1-2 years trying to rely on EA chargers. Plenty of articles and surveys that support this. A very large proportion of America cannot be reliably driven long distance with a Taycan, not just Alaska and ND.

so yes a Tesla is a much better option for a road trip now, though I hope other national charging options improve in the next 2-3 years before I get the electric Cayman.

Porsche certainly builds a better BEV than Tesla, but Porsche needs a charging network to match the quality of their cars.

kort677

countless numbers of people stranded? is that so? I wonder what the numbers are for people who run out of gas are.

as for being stranded because of charger hardware issues, that can happen, I recently ran into issues with my IPace that wouldn't take charges from EVGO units while on a trip however the problem was solved by location a chargepoint unit. I was having serious issues charging my Taycan , to the point where charging was a 50/50 craps shoot. porsche finally got their sheet together and made a software patch that fixed my issues.

the point is to not be like that gal in the wall st journal article and take off on a road trip with no planning, no clue about charging EVs.

as for charging coverage, the least covered places in the US are MT, ND,SD, WY, and northern MS and AL. the former can be a serious issue for road trippers the latter just requires judicious planning. the rest of the US for the most part is well covered. I know because I've taken many road trips across the country, both E/W and N/S.

We are past the infancy period of EV travel and are now in childhood stages of development and while charging a car is not as easy as filling a gas tank, for a large number of EV owners the point is moot because they charge their cars at home and never road trip their cars.

detansinn

As a guy who has been regularly road tripping his Taycan more than a thousand miles per week, I call bull**** here.

The Taycan is an excellent road trip car. Beyond simply being a better quality car for the purpose, it charges faster than a Tesla and you’re much less likely to be waiting in line at a charger along your route.

Tesla has sold too many cars with respect to the available supercharging capacity. The variety of CCS networks gives non-Tesla vehicles the edge. I am much happier not being stuck and locked in to a proprietary charging network.

The supercharger “advantage” of 3-4 years ago is no longer valid.

kort677

this is very true in some areas, especially in CA and the west but there is a huge problem coming for the EA/CCS world.

the problem is that EA and other providers are not keeping pace with the numbers of EVs being sold.

I have already encountered full charging stations in FLA, the number of car coupled with sometimes poor maintenance of the chargers can cause access issues as well.

I had pulled into a charger in FL with 3 of 4 units being down and 3 cars waiting to get to the one working charger, meaning a 2+ hour wait just to get to the charger.
EA and the other charge providers need to step up the installation of chargers and expand the current chargers in order to accommodate the massive increase of EVs on the road.

XLR82XS

Cart before the horse.

Dr. G7

Me too. (Are we allowed to say that in the new PC era?) I was down to 15% and thought I'll make it to the next set of chargers, about 15 miles away. Yes, the next set of chargers were in the middle of a cornfield out on the boondocks. Night time. A weak overhead light. Nothing for miles. Luckily one of the fast chargers worked. The other had water in the display. Of course aligning the charger port was a another ordeal.

Dr. G7

EA = check the box for diesel-gate. They made their money and ran. In a trip from Atlanta to Houston, EA was a hit or miss. Maybe 50% working.

I guess we can't blame EA. Unlike gas pumps, there is no profit in charging stations. Gas stations make money on the 300% markup on beer, cigarettes, jerky, etc. Gas is a loss leader.

Dr. G7

Hmmmm

Dr. G7

As an Louisiana (ex) resident, I always say "thank god for MS and AL". As in the lowest education, highest cancer, highest poverty, and the list of "achievements" go on. And now add the ignominy of lowest EV charging.
Of course, both MS and AL excel at competitive sports. Sorry, moderator, I know I am

aCayenneFan

Sounds like there needs to be some provision to compel maintenance of current chargers. If the 3 that were down were properly maintained, there would be a 75% increase in charger availability.

ipse dixit

Sort of, I suppose.

It's like saying Convertibles and Cars are synonymous.

True, in a very general sense.