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Old 03-09-2020 | 03:30 PM
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I don't think anyone posted this. I know Dave04Porsche mentioned the results in the Range thread and, I haven't been around to review every thread but, did a quick search not finding it and, it's worthwhile to post these results.

Testing Results:

https://amcitesting.com/taycan/

About the Testing Results:

https://insideevs.com/news/403108/mo...-taycan-range/
https://www.motor1.com/news/387396/p...ependent-test/
https://www.myev.com/research/buyers...ctric-vehicles

It's interesting that the EPA testing is done on a dyno and, that there would be such a difference from real world testing.

Dan (notes the TS model did better than the T and, that Porsche paid AMCI)
Old 03-09-2020 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by hfm
It's interesting that the EPA testing is done on a dyno and, that there would be such a difference from real world testing.
Taycan did ~280mi in the EPA testing. Then this number gets multiplied by 0.7, hence the 200mi.

So the AMCI results match the EPA dyno results quite well.
// there are of course differences like in EPA test the HVAC is off and it's a precise speed curve, while AMCI's and MotorTrend's test are real city/hwy driving.


Here are the Motortrend's results:
https://www.motortrend.com/cars/pors...ed-range-test/

Taycan Turbo S:
  • Normal mode (one loop): 240/274/254 city/highway/combined miles
  • Range mode (two loops): 243/269/254 city/highway/combined miles


Here is how Motortrend does the testing:
https://www.motortrend.com/motor-trend-real-mpg-works/

And here is the response from AMCI to Motortrend's results:
https://www.prnewswire.com/news-rele...301019212.html
  • AMCI Testing started with 100% charge and ran both cars in tandem until limp-home battery exhaustion—the only real-world approach to verifying total vehicle efficiency and range
  • AMCI Testing ran the maximum-range configuration for five full days and nearly 1,400 miles, then ran the normal-driving configuration for another five full days and another nearly 1,400 miles. That is ten days (two shifts/day) and just under 2,800 total miles of range testing
  • MotorTrend's "normal mode" range for the Taycan Turbo S was a partial-charge extrapolation from a single 88-mile loop, and its "range mode" performance was a partial-charge extrapolation from just two 88-mile loops. It appears that MotorTrend never completed (or assessed range over) a single, complete, discharge cycle
  • AMCI Testing Certified and reported the results from every mile of testing that was run—MotorTrend employed some type of "data cleaning" according to their description
  • In normal mode, AMCI Testing only Certified a combined City/Highway range figure, because that's precisely what we tested. MotorTrend evidently used a further-truncated portion of their one-loop, 88-mile dataset to then break out distinct figures for both city and highway driving (evidently extrapolating from 48.4 miles of city driving and 39.6 miles of highway driving)



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