Mission E / Taycan - Deposits
#16
I just hope it starts looking more like the concept version that had more appeal, the spy shots look like a Panamera update.
Also with the Tesla Roadster boasting Zero to 60 in 1.9 Seconds, 250-MPH Top Speed, 620-Mile Range, I certainly hope that PORSCHE has something up their sleeve to compete with this sort of performance.
I guess one can only wait back and see.....
#17
#18
Burning Brakes
It's funny, since you if you squint and look at individual aspects, the two aren't that far apart. I think it's the more aggressive nose of the concept, the more streamlined roofline, the shorter chassis, and the 911-like hips which are mostly absent from the probable production car. The funky headlights are cool but probably not essential, the typical 911 / Cayman bulbous headlights would be fine as well.
I suspect the shorter chassis is simply impossible in a production car. The rear doors in the concept extend over the wheels, and there's those suicide doors which some have argued here are a difficult engineering problem for a production car. The only way I can see retaining the car length would be if they shifted to 2 doors, making it more of a 911 competitor.
I think they could have retained the other styling cues, but elected not to. Which is really unfortunate.
#19
After putting down $1k, I'm #28 in line at Strong Porsche in Salt Lake City according to the sales rep Daniel Eastman. I was waiting for someone to release an electric with AWD and a 300 mile range and Porsche is first! The P100 Tesla will do it but the interior is too cheap for the price tag IMO. My first Porsche buying experience. Now...to buy or to lease?
#20
Hello Rennlisters.. I am in Miami Beach, FL and my closest dealer The Collection has no idea what a Mission E is. Seriously they don't even have dealer allocations yet so cannot take deposits. If anyone here can help me with an out of state dealer or elsewhere in Florida so that I can put a deposit down and get in the cue it would be great. Any leads will be appreciated or if anyone wants to back out of their wait list turn please contact me and let me know. If everything goes as planned this E Porsche will leave Tesla in the dust. My cell is (786) 266-7687 if a lead wants to call or text me. Thank you.
Julio
Julio
#21
Nordschleife Master
Interesting reading ... Tesla is stealing away some customers, admits Porsche CEO https://electrek.co/2017/11/30/tesla...s-porsche-ceo/
Volkswagen has openly said before that they see Tesla has their main competitor in the transition to electric vehicles and now a Porsche executive adds that they respect the company, especially since they are apparently stealing some customers away. There’s no doubt that the Model S disrupted the large luxury sedan segment. In the US, it often outsells the Mercedes S-Class, Porsche’s Panamera, and the BMW 6/7 Series combined. several vehicles in the segment have seen their sales drop since Tesla entered the market. When asked about Tesla’s impact, Porsche North America CEO Klaus Zellmer told CNBC in an interview this week:
“We have lots of respect for Tesla – and, yes, I’m sure there are some Porsche customers, that in terms of connectivity, digital stuff in the car and electric battery in the vehicles, didn’t find the car that they wanted with Porsche so they bought somewhere else,” That’s not surprising since the only electric vehicles that Porsche currently offers are plug-in hybrids with very limited electric range. But they are changing that with the upcoming all-electric Mission E, which is expected to hit the market in 2019.
Volkswagen has openly said before that they see Tesla has their main competitor in the transition to electric vehicles and now a Porsche executive adds that they respect the company, especially since they are apparently stealing some customers away. There’s no doubt that the Model S disrupted the large luxury sedan segment. In the US, it often outsells the Mercedes S-Class, Porsche’s Panamera, and the BMW 6/7 Series combined. several vehicles in the segment have seen their sales drop since Tesla entered the market. When asked about Tesla’s impact, Porsche North America CEO Klaus Zellmer told CNBC in an interview this week:
“We have lots of respect for Tesla – and, yes, I’m sure there are some Porsche customers, that in terms of connectivity, digital stuff in the car and electric battery in the vehicles, didn’t find the car that they wanted with Porsche so they bought somewhere else,” That’s not surprising since the only electric vehicles that Porsche currently offers are plug-in hybrids with very limited electric range. But they are changing that with the upcoming all-electric Mission E, which is expected to hit the market in 2019.
#22
Hello Rennlisters.. I am in Miami Beach, FL and my closest dealer The Collection has no idea what a Mission E is. Seriously they don't even have dealer allocations yet so cannot take deposits. If anyone here can help me with an out of state dealer or elsewhere in Florida so that I can put a deposit down and get in the cue it would be great. Any leads will be appreciated or if anyone wants to back out of their wait list turn please contact me and let me know. If everything goes as planned this E Porsche will leave Tesla in the dust. My cell is (786) 266-7687 if a lead wants to call or text me. Thank you.
Julio
Julio
#23
Rennlist Member
Deposit Achieved! Stevens Creek Porsche San Jose, CA - can't wait!
#24
Can you please send me the contact info for that dealer, I'd like to call them. Thank you.
#25
Rennlist Member
@JAB12 - information is in your PM inbox.
#28
Nordschleife Master
Plug-In Hybrid Porsche 911 Rumored Back On https://insideevs.com/plug-hybrid-po...-rumored-back/
Porsche is allegedly returning to the idea of creating a hybrid 911 (rendered above). Anonymous insiders with knowledge of the project confirmed its existence to Automotive News. If all goes to plan, the hybrid 911 would arrive during the iconic model’s next generation but wouldn’t be available at launch. The vehicle’s arrival isn’t certain yet because the company’s engineers are still working out how to lighten the electrified powertrain enough to maintain the model’s handling while also allowing for a 40-mile (64-kilometer) electric range.
This new info fits with previous reports about Porsche’s goals for an electrified 911. “Fully electrified sports cars would work very well for longitudinal acceleration,” Porsche R&D boss Michael Steiner told Autocar earlier this year. “But the weight disadvantage is in the handling.” The company believes that solid state batteries’ energy density advantages could be the game changer. Porsche had a 911 hybrid under development in the past but abandoned the project in 2016. August Achleitner, the model’s development boss, admitted earlier this year that the extra weight and additional production expense made the vehicle unviable for production.
The company already has hybrid variants of the Cayenne and Panamera and more electrification is on the way. The Mission E is the firm’s first full EV for the public, and there’s a $743 million investment into a new assembly plant and paint shop to build it. The money is in addition to $3.5 billion going towards developing EV tech. The next-gen 911 will likely debut in 2018. Spy photos show that the exterior design doesn’t change much, but the vehicle becomes somewhat larger. Inside, there’s now a digital instrument cluster with an analog tachometer.
Porsche is allegedly returning to the idea of creating a hybrid 911 (rendered above). Anonymous insiders with knowledge of the project confirmed its existence to Automotive News. If all goes to plan, the hybrid 911 would arrive during the iconic model’s next generation but wouldn’t be available at launch. The vehicle’s arrival isn’t certain yet because the company’s engineers are still working out how to lighten the electrified powertrain enough to maintain the model’s handling while also allowing for a 40-mile (64-kilometer) electric range.
This new info fits with previous reports about Porsche’s goals for an electrified 911. “Fully electrified sports cars would work very well for longitudinal acceleration,” Porsche R&D boss Michael Steiner told Autocar earlier this year. “But the weight disadvantage is in the handling.” The company believes that solid state batteries’ energy density advantages could be the game changer. Porsche had a 911 hybrid under development in the past but abandoned the project in 2016. August Achleitner, the model’s development boss, admitted earlier this year that the extra weight and additional production expense made the vehicle unviable for production.
The company already has hybrid variants of the Cayenne and Panamera and more electrification is on the way. The Mission E is the firm’s first full EV for the public, and there’s a $743 million investment into a new assembly plant and paint shop to build it. The money is in addition to $3.5 billion going towards developing EV tech. The next-gen 911 will likely debut in 2018. Spy photos show that the exterior design doesn’t change much, but the vehicle becomes somewhat larger. Inside, there’s now a digital instrument cluster with an analog tachometer.