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Old May 6, 2025 | 01:41 PM
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I recall seeing a Cayman R (and possibly Spyder) pricing spreadsheet here. It factored in several variables to estimate values. I recall inputting info on my car, which I would usually save. For the life of me, I can't find it on my computer or RL.

Anyone recall what I'm referring to here? I would appreciate someone directing me to it.

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Hey - I created this one just noodling around and adding actual sales data when it was available. Is it perfect? No, but it's not bad - some would say "close enough for rock n' roll".

Some of the criticism has come around the value of certain options, the two biggest being the MT and the LWBS, both of which are not valued by some drivers, valued by others and definitely increase the selling price but the rough values I've chosen.

Check it out and let me know if you have any questions or comments.
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Thank you. This is exactly what I was searching for, and I don't know why I didn't save it locally. (Perhaps I did and the search words I used weren't good.)

Thanks again!

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Originally Posted by HelpMeHelpU
Thank you. This is exactly what I was searching for, and I don't know why I didn't save it locally. (Perhaps I did and the search words I used weren't good.)

Thanks again!
D, take this thing with an enormous grain of salt. J shares it proudly and liberally, but it is highly unscientific despite lending itself to the assumption that it’s analytically derived. Personally, I find it so full of assumptions (pretty much entirely, actually) to render it all but useless. To use it for the purpose of deciding whether a car is fairly priced or not is laughable.
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information is good, thanks for compiling this list.
What you / we do with it is the key
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D, take this thing with an enormous grain of salt. J shares it proudly and liberally, but it is highly unscientific despite lending itself to the assumption that it’s analytically derived. Personally, I find it so full of assumptions (pretty much entirely, actually) to render it all but useless. To use it for the purpose of deciding whether a car is fairly priced or not is laughable.
Yeah, yeah, I get it, big guy. I've never made any grandiose claims on, quite the contrary. How about getting out of your arm chair and giving some useful ideas vs criticisms.

I'm all ears. Bring it.

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Originally Posted by cgfen
information is good, thanks for compiling this list.
What you / we do with it is the key
Exactly.
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I am very fond of "the spreadsheet" and appreciate the effort put into it. It may not be perfect, but it is the best I have seen in trying to value these rare cars. All valuation tools are subjective, and there are too many things that cannot be captured so easily. Things such as PPF, the completeness of service records, all the way down to brand of tire may matter more to some, but less to others. The spreadsheet captures the major value-add items, and that's really all you can ask of it.
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Originally Posted by Zeus993
Yeah, yeah, I get it, big guy. I've never made any grandiose claims on, quite the contrary. How about getting out of your arm chair and giving some useful ideas vs criticisms.

I'm all ears. Bring it.
There’s not enough data to be truly analytical. Collecting actual sales data is meaningful (asking prices are meaningless), but a) there’s very little of it, and b) trying to correlate it all to options is an impossible task when the sample size is so small and the specs/variables so varied. Yet, you use it regularly to opine on whether something is well priced even as you pay lip service to its shortcomings — that’s where my biggest issue lies. My useful idea is to go ahead and collect actual sales data if people will give it to you (put it as a pinned thread if you like), but resist the urge to go deeper because the math is too multivariate to be usefully done on a small sample size; plenty of larger markets (eg, 993) survive quite well without such efforts. I don’t doubt your intentions, but I think your enthusiasm for the cars is better expressed on the road than in Excel.
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Originally Posted by RobC2
I am very fond of "the spreadsheet" and appreciate the effort put into it. It may not be perfect, but it is the best I have seen in trying to value these rare cars. All valuation tools are subjective, and there are too many things that cannot be captured so easily. Things such as PPF, the completeness of service records, all the way down to brand of tire may matter more to some, but less to others. The spreadsheet captures the major value-add items, and that's really all you can ask of it.
Add to that, cleanliness of Carfax, maintenance records/history, DME report, paint meter readings/originality), etc
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Originally Posted by Zeus993
Hey - I created this one just noodling around and adding actual sales data when it was available. Is it perfect? No, but it's not bad - some would say "close enough for rock n' roll".

Some of the criticism has come around the value of certain options, the two biggest being the MT and the LWBS, both of which are not valued by some drivers, valued by others and definitely increase the selling price but the rough values I've chosen.

Check it out and let me know if you have any questions or comments.
Here's an online version: CaymanR Pricing Might be easier to share in the future. Just make a copy for yourself to edit.
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Originally Posted by kaaayelll
There’s not enough data to be truly analytical. Collecting actual sales data is meaningful (asking prices are meaningless), but a) there’s very little of it, and b) trying to correlate it all to options is an impossible task when the sample size is so small and the specs/variables so varied. Yet, you use it regularly to opine on whether something is well priced even as you pay lip service to its shortcomings — that’s where my biggest issue lies. My useful idea is to go ahead and collect actual sales data if people will give it to you (put it as a pinned thread if you like), but resist the urge to go deeper because the math is too multivariate to be usefully done on a small sample size; plenty of larger markets (eg, 993) survive quite well without such efforts. I don’t doubt your intentions, but I think your enthusiasm for the cars is better expressed on the road than in Excel.
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SALE: Recently April 2025 sale (private)
2011 Spyder MT / Sport Seats / Full leather
ASKING: $59,000
PRICING MATRIX: $52,504
SOLD: $54,000

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SALE: March 2025 sale (private)
2011 Spyder MT / LWBS / Carnewal / Numeric / GT3 Master Cyl / SS lines
ASKING: $59,999
PRICING MATRIX: $58,650
SOLD: $59,999
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Originally Posted by Zeus993
SALE: March 2025 sale (private)
2011 Spyder MT / LWBS / Carnewal / Numeric / GT3 Master Cyl / SS lines
ASKING: $59,999
PRICING MATRIX: $58,650
SOLD: $59,999
Any idea of the mileage on these cars?
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