Cayman R. Will it be collectable?
#16
The body kit for the R was basically the Sport Design Aero Kit (Bumper Spars, Side Intakes, Rear Wing) which any Cayman could be ordered if so pleased... So to the untrained eye, it wasn't that different. Where the Spyder had a complete different roof, rear hatch, Front Intakes/LED lights, Bumper Lip and Side Intakes... So cosmetically the Spyder seemed to have gotten more of a transformation. Some had wished that they gave the R a little more treatment in that field, to make it feel little more special.
#17
While on a recent Sunday drive, I had an epiphany about the Cayman R. It's the Butch Cassidy and Sundance Kid: "Can I move? I'm better when I move" car.
By that, I mean it really comes alive and confidence-inspiring when the driving becomes spirited and twisty and closer to the limit. I enjoy driving the car down the road. I REALLY enjoy the car on those spirited drives!
By that, I mean it really comes alive and confidence-inspiring when the driving becomes spirited and twisty and closer to the limit. I enjoy driving the car down the road. I REALLY enjoy the car on those spirited drives!
#19
You couldn't order an S with aluminum doors, LWBs, or get the ecu mapping which makes the 3.4 come alive comparatively. Not sure if you could get limited slip either or the short shift kit as a extra cost options at the time of order. Could you get X73 on a normal 987 like you could a 981? They both are wonderful cars and the 987 Boxster Spyder is definitely one of the best looking Porsches ever, which is why I wanted to have one even while owning a Cayman R. Back to back drives in each will show you why the Cayman R reigns supreme. If I could turn back time, I'd still have my Cayman R and 2011 Spyder. I realize now I haven't gained much if anything with my later trades to a 2016 Spyder, 2017 Targa 4S and GT4 (still have the latter 2). Faster doesn't always mean more fun or more enjoyable to own. The Cayman R is the most balanced performing and most confidence inspiring Porsche I've owned.
#20
You couldn't order an S with aluminum doors, LWBs, or get the ecu mapping which makes the 3.4 come alive comparatively. Not sure if you could get limited slip either or the short shift kit as a extra cost options at the time of order. Could you get X73 on a normal 987 like you could a 981? They both are wonderful cars and the 987 Boxster Spyder is definitely one of the best looking Porsches ever, which is why I wanted to have one even while owning a Cayman R. Back to back drives in each will show you why the Cayman R reigns supreme. If I could turn back time, I'd still have my Cayman R and 2011 Spyder. I realize now I haven't gained much if anything with my later trades to a 2016 Spyder, 2017 Targa 4S and GT4 (still have the latter 2). Faster doesn't always mean more fun or more enjoyable to own. The Cayman R is the most balanced performing and most confidence inspiring Porsche I've owned.
I think there are a bunch of potential flaws in the overall results - i.e. the second time around the guy had more experience, who knows what alignment was like, and so on, although hard to come out of this assuming the R was significantly better.
#21
You couldn't order an S with aluminum doors, LWBs, or get the ecu mapping which makes the 3.4 come alive comparatively. Not sure if you could get limited slip either or the short shift kit as a extra cost options at the time of order. Could you get X73 on a normal 987 like you could a 981? They both are wonderful cars and the 987 Boxster Spyder is definitely one of the best looking Porsches ever, which is why I wanted to have one even while owning a Cayman R. Back to back drives in each will show you why the Cayman R reigns supreme. If I could turn back time, I'd still have my Cayman R and 2011 Spyder. I realize now I haven't gained much if anything with my later trades to a 2016 Spyder, 2017 Targa 4S and GT4 (still have the latter 2). Faster doesn't always mean more fun or more enjoyable to own. The Cayman R is the most balanced performing and most confidence inspiring Porsche I've owned.
While on a recent Sunday drive, I had an epiphany about the Cayman R. It's the Butch Cassidy and Sundance Kid: "Can I move? I'm better when I move" car.
By that, I mean it really comes alive and confidence-inspiring when the driving becomes spirited and twisty and closer to the limit. I enjoy driving the car down the road. I REALLY enjoy the car on those spirited drives!
By that, I mean it really comes alive and confidence-inspiring when the driving becomes spirited and twisty and closer to the limit. I enjoy driving the car down the road. I REALLY enjoy the car on those spirited drives!
#22
#23
^^I wouldn't use the word significant. Marginal perphaps. Main variable between my R and Spyder was PCCB, which has a value other than just brake performance. But the main difference I could detect was power. My R made my Spyder feel just a little flat. Neither of mine had Bridgestone RE 050s like in the video.
#24
^^I wouldn't use the word significant. Marginal perphaps. Main variable between my R and Spyder was PCCB, which has a value other than just brake performance. But the main difference I could detect was power. My R made my Spyder feel just a little flat. Neither of mine had Bridgestone RE 050s like in the video.
#25
You couldn't order an S with aluminum doors, LWBs, or get the ecu mapping which makes the 3.4 come alive comparatively. Not sure if you could get limited slip either or the short shift kit as a extra cost options at the time of order. Could you get X73 on a normal 987 like you could a 981?
#26
Yes.
Of course.
I tell my wife this all the time.
My toys are collector toys. They will go up in value. Trust me.
Then, with her keen CPA mind she shows me the taxes, DMV fees, maintenance, insurance, storage (mancave not cheap) etc...
Yes dear, maybe collectible but not wise investments.
Of course.
I tell my wife this all the time.
My toys are collector toys. They will go up in value. Trust me.
Then, with her keen CPA mind she shows me the taxes, DMV fees, maintenance, insurance, storage (mancave not cheap) etc...
Yes dear, maybe collectible but not wise investments.
#27
For interest sake, the 2011/12 Spyder received the 987.2 Cayman S throttle mapping. The R got its own unique throttle mapping which purposefully resulted in a quickened throttle response. That's what you really feel between the 2. It's a more immediate punch. How that translates to actual measured performance is probably not much, but the fun factor is notched up a tad, stock v stock. I like it when Porsche goes out of their way to give you something you wouldn't have even asked for. If it weren't for their self-constraint to provide moderate incremental power upgrades for subsequent models I'm sure Porsche would have liked to have bumped the power a bit more in the Spyder and R, but knowing the 981 was coming they were only going to bump it enough to make them stand out against current S models. Even so it still took Porsche 3 years to introduce a Cayman more powerful than the R. These are really special cars and collectible or not, they are about as fun as any modern car can be. They are super balanced between chassis and power and still deliver incredible touring economy (upwards of 30 mpg). Porsche hasn't been able to deliver this much performance, while maintaining decent economy since.
#28
Cayman R, New to me
2012 Cayman R, Manual Transmission, Light weight bucket seats
30 years after selling my 914, I am a Porsche owner again. I purchased this 19,000 mile Certified Pre-Owned beauty last month.
30 years after selling my 914, I am a Porsche owner again. I purchased this 19,000 mile Certified Pre-Owned beauty last month.
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#29
I believe the Spyder and the R will be collectible, but will never reach massively high values like we see with the aircooled 911s. I'd bet all over optioned R/Spyders will be significantly less desirable. Look at the RS America: the cars optioned that aligned with the 'performance ethos' became the most desirable.
As others have stated, the Spyder is a little more 'special' with the its unique styling. When shopping for my R, I was sorely tempted by the Spyder, but as I was looking for a car that I would use on the track quite a bit, the R was the more sensible choice.
I bought my R to drive it, including on the track...and I do and love it. I've modded it as well, reducing its collectability and frankly I do not care. The 'value' in my R is the countless amazing experiences I have at track events and the great folks I meet in the Porsche community, not in its resale value.
DJM
As others have stated, the Spyder is a little more 'special' with the its unique styling. When shopping for my R, I was sorely tempted by the Spyder, but as I was looking for a car that I would use on the track quite a bit, the R was the more sensible choice.
I bought my R to drive it, including on the track...and I do and love it. I've modded it as well, reducing its collectability and frankly I do not care. The 'value' in my R is the countless amazing experiences I have at track events and the great folks I meet in the Porsche community, not in its resale value.
DJM
#30
I believe the Spyder and the R will be collectible, but will never reach massively high values like we see with the aircooled 911s. I'd bet all over optioned R/Spyders will be significantly less desirable. Look at the RS America: the cars optioned that aligned with the 'performance ethos' became the most desirable.
As others have stated, the Spyder is a little more 'special' with the its unique styling. When shopping for my R, I was sorely tempted by the Spyder, but as I was looking for a car that I would use on the track quite a bit, the R was the more sensible choice.
I bought my R to drive it, including on the track...and I do and love it. I've modded it as well, reducing its collectability and frankly I do not care. The 'value' in my R is the countless amazing experiences I have at track events and the great folks I meet in the Porsche community, not in its resale value.
DJM
As others have stated, the Spyder is a little more 'special' with the its unique styling. When shopping for my R, I was sorely tempted by the Spyder, but as I was looking for a car that I would use on the track quite a bit, the R was the more sensible choice.
I bought my R to drive it, including on the track...and I do and love it. I've modded it as well, reducing its collectability and frankly I do not care. The 'value' in my R is the countless amazing experiences I have at track events and the great folks I meet in the Porsche community, not in its resale value.
DJM