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Old Apr 5, 2016 | 11:21 AM
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If you've been scribbling your setup notes on the back of a napkin here's a link to the setup sheets we use. Should help keep you organized:

http://atlspeedwerks.com/setup/
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Old Apr 5, 2016 | 12:54 PM
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You guys are hardcore - I set it and forget it
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^ never gonna go fast that way. Start working with setup sheets and spend a test day at least doing shock and bar sweeps, and tire pressures.
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^ never gonna go fast that way. Start working with setup sheets and spend a test day at least doing shock and bar sweeps, and tire pressures.
Hmm I go pretty fast, maybe just lucky.

Unless its wet dont you just use full stiff front, full soft front bars?

Hot tire pressures low 30s?

Unless super bumpy track 2 or 3 clicks off full stiff on shocks?

I'd love to learn this stuff, especially if it means more speed!
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Thank you Todd, nicely done! As my first real drive in the SPB will be at the LRP Club Race I don't know what it is I don't know yet but at least I can put down the way the car was set up to begin with as a base..
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Originally Posted by audipwr1
Hmm I go pretty fast, maybe just lucky.

1) Unless its wet dont you just use full stiff front, full soft front bars?

2) Hot tire pressures low 30s?

3) Unless super bumpy track 2 or 3 clicks off full stiff on shocks?

I'd love to learn this stuff, especially if it means more speed!
1) Usually but not always (see comments in 3)
2) Rarely (depends on the ambient temp, track surface, and desired total spring rate)
3) Depends (on track surface, turn-in balance, stagger or square, driver preference)

Even if you end up where you started for certain tracks then at least you've gone through the process and learned what sweep adjustments do, how to adapt your driving to them (skill development), and you simply learn more about cars and setup. It's easy to arrive and drive, but IMHO more rewarding to go through to process to learn more deeply. You can only become a better and more informed driver as a result.
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What hot pressures do you run (range)?

I'd love to tinker with this stuff but honestly just being at the track / racing / checking pressures and wheel torque and hydrating take up my entire day - anything more would further impact my driving

I know higher level racing you have to tweak this stuff to squeeze out the last tenth - I haven't really needed that yet and the tenth in car setup gains wouldn't offset the seconds lost from being tired and stressed from tinkering with the car
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Originally Posted by audipwr1
Unless it's wet, don't you just use full stiff front, full soft front bars?
I'm not sure I understand this one.

What does "full stiff front" refer to?

Not the front bars, you cover that in the next part ("Full soft front bars", which I understand).

Not the shocks--you covered that in item #4.

So that leaves what?

Also, what about the rear bars?

Maybe it's a typo, and one of the "fronts" you meant to type "rear"? But which one?
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Originally Posted by toddlamb
If you've been scribbling your setup notes on the back of a napkin here's a link to the setup sheets we use. Should help keep you organized:

http://atlspeedwerks.com/setup/
Todd, thanks so much for the set up sheets......
do you happen to have some that have been already filled in and proven to work well?
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Originally Posted by Greg Holmberg
I'm not sure I understand this one. What does "full stiff front" refer to? Not the front bars, you cover that in the next part ("Full soft front bars", which I understand). Not the shocks--you covered that in item #4. So that leaves what? Also, what about the rear bars? Maybe it's a typo, and one of the "fronts" you meant to type "rear"? But which one?
Sorry phone typing

I've found in rain to use full soft front bar and either disconnect or full soft rear bar

Dry switch that to full stiff front bar
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This is true for many racers: when they focus on the driving and setup but let someone else work on the car; suddenly they become a lot faster and more consistent.

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I'd love to tinker with this stuff but honestly just being at the track / racing / checking pressures and wheel torque and hydrating take up my entire day - anything more would further impact my driving
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Old Apr 6, 2016 | 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by toddlamb
This is true for many racers: when they focus on the driving and setup but let someone else work on the car; suddenly they become a lot faster and more consistent.
Just waiting for my big sponsorship to come in!
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As much as it pains me to admit, I'm in the audipwr1 camp.
I much prefer a low maintenance car that I can just get in and drive.
All this data acq is overwhelming, and I'm losing interest.
I just want to drive.
But thanks very much for sharing these sheets.
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Originally Posted by gums
As much as it pains me to admit, I'm in the audipwr1 camp.
I much prefer a low maintenance car that I can just get in and drive.
All this data acq is overwhelming, and I'm losing interest.
I just want to drive.
But thanks very much for sharing these sheets.
Frank - You should get support for one day to see if it setup changes make a difference (to you). I'm going to be too busy just learning how to drive this platform or I would!
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Old Apr 6, 2016 | 03:07 PM
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Matt's point is sound, even if you don't go as hard core as he does. The best drivers are aware of all the minute changes and signals the car is sending them every foot of every lap, and especially as the car and conditions change. They have put the basic mechanics of driving into their subconscious so their conscious can pay attention to the car and thus stay way ahead of it. Experimenting with small changes can train this instinct, and very often can also incidentally yield a faster and easier to drive car...
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