a few SPB questions if you dont mind
#1
Three Wheelin'
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a few SPB questions if you dont mind
Contemplating buying a SPB to have some more fun. if anyone could help answer a few questions, would be most appreciative...
1. anyone have a good dyno report they'd like to share for a good motor? whats a good target HP and torque value for a competitive car? whats the best someone has seen? whats the # where you turn your back on a potential car for lack of power?
2. how's the SPB community in the northeast. ? i see a bunch out there but i havent been that in tune. growing? stagnant? few guys or a bunch of good guys?
and lastly
3. for those who maybe are in SPBoxsters after being in faster cars, whats your take? like it? regret it? miss the faster car? thoughts, ideas....thanks in advance.
1. anyone have a good dyno report they'd like to share for a good motor? whats a good target HP and torque value for a competitive car? whats the best someone has seen? whats the # where you turn your back on a potential car for lack of power?
2. how's the SPB community in the northeast. ? i see a bunch out there but i havent been that in tune. growing? stagnant? few guys or a bunch of good guys?
and lastly
3. for those who maybe are in SPBoxsters after being in faster cars, whats your take? like it? regret it? miss the faster car? thoughts, ideas....thanks in advance.
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Contemplating buying a SPB to have some more fun. if anyone could help answer a few questions, would be most appreciative...
1. anyone have a good dyno report they'd like to share for a good motor? whats a good target HP and torque value for a competitive car? whats the best someone has seen? whats the # where you turn your back on a potential car for lack of power?
2. how's the SPB community in the northeast. ? i see a bunch out there but i havent been that in tune. growing? stagnant? few guys or a bunch of good guys?
and lastly
3. for those who maybe are in SPBoxsters after being in faster cars, whats your take? like it? regret it? miss the faster car? thoughts, ideas....thanks in advance.
1. anyone have a good dyno report they'd like to share for a good motor? whats a good target HP and torque value for a competitive car? whats the best someone has seen? whats the # where you turn your back on a potential car for lack of power?
2. how's the SPB community in the northeast. ? i see a bunch out there but i havent been that in tune. growing? stagnant? few guys or a bunch of good guys?
and lastly
3. for those who maybe are in SPBoxsters after being in faster cars, whats your take? like it? regret it? miss the faster car? thoughts, ideas....thanks in advance.
1) not sure you will find anyone willing to share a dyno sheet, they are pretty closely held. Mine has been on the dyno at Powertech, where 5 other SPB's have been. From that I can tell you that healthy car make high 190's hp. Below mid 180's is probably not competitive. My car makes 189 on that dyno, but it hasn't held it back it seems. Weighting these cars is as important as power.
2) The community is growing. Last year at the LRP race there were 3 cars. This year 12 entered. RA last year had 3 cars, this year was 12 cars. 16 at WGI this year. I know a ton of new cars showed up this year in the Northeast and know of 3 that are planning to when it works out for them soon. Come join us, the racing is fun!
3) if you know my story, you know I looked at buying a 2011Cup first (it was actually in your shop). I DE a 2004 GT3. I assumed I wanted to go fast. What I have learned is that I wanted to race and the speed wasn't important, the racing was. I find with these cars I have to be a better driver to make it go fast so enjoy that more than outright speed. I go to open lapping days and DE's in my GT3 for that where no one is going to challenge for the corner.
Feel free to PM if you want to chat more.
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Steve,
Agree with all the above from Matt. Setup is important and the car rewards consistency and precision. One mistake and you're outta the game - if often takes a couple laps to claw back from an error.
I think the class now has some real momentum in the northeast.
Like Matt I have a 'faster' car for DEs but really appreciate the fun and skill development that comes from racing the SPB.
PM or email me if you have any questions.
Agree with all the above from Matt. Setup is important and the car rewards consistency and precision. One mistake and you're outta the game - if often takes a couple laps to claw back from an error.
I think the class now has some real momentum in the northeast.
Like Matt I have a 'faster' car for DEs but really appreciate the fun and skill development that comes from racing the SPB.
PM or email me if you have any questions.
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1. Right around 190 is solid much more will draw some attention.
2. Have no idea, but getting popular elsewhere.
3. If you're racing in a spec class ultimate speed is not important, close racing and a large field is...
2. Have no idea, but getting popular elsewhere.
3. If you're racing in a spec class ultimate speed is not important, close racing and a large field is...
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+1 to all above.
SPB is huge down here in Texas the last club race at TWS had more than 30 cars. The reason is simple.
Cars are a Blast to drive, cycle costs are amazingly low, competition is very very good, and skills are on display requiring the driver to stay sharp. There is little HP to pull you out of mistakes.
Like several other posters I also have a high HP DE car in the form of a GT2.
SPB is huge down here in Texas the last club race at TWS had more than 30 cars. The reason is simple.
Cars are a Blast to drive, cycle costs are amazingly low, competition is very very good, and skills are on display requiring the driver to stay sharp. There is little HP to pull you out of mistakes.
Like several other posters I also have a high HP DE car in the form of a GT2.
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You can bring/register as many cars as there are run groups, or, you can run one car in different run groups. One in-class and the other out-of-class (exhibition). Fee for each registration.
SPB, just got one but family health issues have kept me off the track. I got it for the "spec", more or less level playing field. I am coming from GT5 where money motors win!
SPB, just got one but family health issues have kept me off the track. I got it for the "spec", more or less level playing field. I am coming from GT5 where money motors win!
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Considering jumping into this class also.
SPG, did you build new or buy pre built and upgrade? Would love to see pics and details on build.
SPG, did you build new or buy pre built and upgrade? Would love to see pics and details on build.
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Three Wheelin'
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i bought a car. lots of great quality shops around that can build. i just think for the money asked, wouldbe hard to replciate for anywhere near same price, and not lose 3 months. this was a new built, every last option, tweak, motor dyno'd perfect. didnt cost that much, about the same as 3, 4 wheelsets for that GT3R. i have 2 guys who work for ZSA who are impeccable, and they'l ltweak it up, clean the inside up even nicer, make it special. hoping to have it, and race it hard for a few years.
i dont see a ton of downside. great fun car, right price, good fields.
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SPG: Thanks for reply, info and insight. I still need to convince myself I am ready to jump back in and do some due diligence. Prebuilt does seem like the way to go.
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did a lot of due diligence. great class. i always LOVED my spec miata, just loved it. have had a slew of faster, more expensive GT cars. ive done well in GT cars, a few track records and wins, but when i reflect back on my racing, the most fun i have has been in slower cars. more competition, more guys can afford the class, and monies are spent prudently but for true performance instead of $5k to replace a carbon front bumper cover. ive had a spec boxster before, actually two of them always fun.
i bought a car. lots of great quality shops around that can build. i just think for the money asked, wouldbe hard to replciate for anywhere near same price, and not lose 3 months. this was a new built, every last option, tweak, motor dyno'd perfect. didnt cost that much, about the same as 3, 4 wheelsets for that GT3R. i have 2 guys who work for ZSA who are impeccable, and they'l ltweak it up, clean the inside up even nicer, make it special. hoping to have it, and race it hard for a few years.
i dont see a ton of downside. great fun car, right price, good fields.
i bought a car. lots of great quality shops around that can build. i just think for the money asked, wouldbe hard to replciate for anywhere near same price, and not lose 3 months. this was a new built, every last option, tweak, motor dyno'd perfect. didnt cost that much, about the same as 3, 4 wheelsets for that GT3R. i have 2 guys who work for ZSA who are impeccable, and they'l ltweak it up, clean the inside up even nicer, make it special. hoping to have it, and race it hard for a few years.
i dont see a ton of downside. great fun car, right price, good fields.
#12
+ to all the above... moved to SPB from SP996... great fun to drive SPB and lots of competition whether your in the front, mid, or rear of the pack here in Texas !!
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Burning Brakes
DE'd my nicely tuned 997 4S for a couple if years. When the race bug bit, the SPB was a no brainer.
surprisingly quick, great track cars, low cost to operate (relatively speaking) and a growing field with some great drivers. My first ever PCA race is this weekend at High Plains. I consider myself a good driver, but I know I'm going to be put to a serious test this weekend and will be really pleased if I can finish upper half (24 SPBs registered).
Regardless of finish, I know there will be tight/competitive racing that will do nothing but help me develop my racing skills.
I built my car. Wasn't cheap, but taught me a lot about cars (mechanically). Also built so I would know every square inch of the car. No surprises for me.
surprisingly quick, great track cars, low cost to operate (relatively speaking) and a growing field with some great drivers. My first ever PCA race is this weekend at High Plains. I consider myself a good driver, but I know I'm going to be put to a serious test this weekend and will be really pleased if I can finish upper half (24 SPBs registered).
Regardless of finish, I know there will be tight/competitive racing that will do nothing but help me develop my racing skills.
I built my car. Wasn't cheap, but taught me a lot about cars (mechanically). Also built so I would know every square inch of the car. No surprises for me.
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DE'd my nicely tuned 997 4S for a couple if years. When the race bug bit, the SPB was a no brainer.
surprisingly quick, great track cars, low cost to operate (relatively speaking) and a growing field with some great drivers. My first ever PCA race is this weekend at High Plains. I consider myself a good driver, but I know I'm going to be put to a serious test this weekend and will be really pleased if I can finish upper half (24 SPBs registered).
Regardless of finish, I know there will be tight/competitive racing that will do nothing but help me develop my racing skills.
surprisingly quick, great track cars, low cost to operate (relatively speaking) and a growing field with some great drivers. My first ever PCA race is this weekend at High Plains. I consider myself a good driver, but I know I'm going to be put to a serious test this weekend and will be really pleased if I can finish upper half (24 SPBs registered).
Regardless of finish, I know there will be tight/competitive racing that will do nothing but help me develop my racing skills.
Ian