Tannedbrown

hi Guys- my car has 22K miles only - 4 year service was completed in 2020 and subsequently I did oil changes for three years -

dealer is telling me that I have to do the following -

oil change - $600
brake fluid flush - $420
Spark plugs - $1200
Drive belt - $440
PDCC reservoir replacement - $1280
air and pollen filters - $420 + 380
transfer case service - $680
transmission service - $1450

Total 6870 + taxes

Does this sound right? also what about the prices? Do those sound right? What services are must have versus nice to have?

Any suggestions or recommendations?

Thank you

abiazis

Personally, I would do the following listed below cut and pasted from your post. If you are a bit handy, you could save quite a bit if you DIY some things. Sounds like you need to find an independent shop and not go to that dealer again for anything.

- oil change - $600 - I would do this on your schedule at an independent shop or save some money with DIY - reference YouTube instruction. You need to have 36MM socket to remove oil filter housing and a 1/2 inch drive 8mm hex driver from Amazon.
- brake fluid flush - $420 - this should be done every 2 years, so do this.
- Spark plugs - $1200 - I would wait until 40,000 miles
- Drive belt - $440 - wait until 40,000 and check
- PDCC reservoir replacement - $1280 - unless its broken - no
- air and pollen filters - $420 + 380 - you can do this for about $30 for both filters from Amazon - check you tube...cabin filter requires some acrobatics for us taller people.
- transfer case service - $680 - not until 60k miles or much more
- transmission service - $1450 - not until 60k miles or much more

mffarrell

transfer case service - 120K miles or 12 years
transmission service - 120K miles or 12 years

worf928

What dealer? Or at least what city? Or region?

The implied labor charges are otherworldly.

These prices make no sense:

Oil change on a lift takes one hour tops. Even at dealer prices for oil ($20/qt x 9 quarts, plus filter element and o-ring) the implied labor charge is ~$400 / hour.

Spark plugs on a Turbo are NOT quick. I think the dealer has quoted you the spark plug change for a non-Turbo 991: two-ish hours at $400/hr and 6 plugs at $50/plug (guess at dealer prices.)

I can’t imagine that it requires less than 6 hours on a 991 Turbo. I think the next time *I* do it, it will only take 8 hours.

If the plugs were done in 2020 (verify from your service records) and you haven’t driven it on winter-salted roads and haven’t put on most of those 22k miles since, then I wouldn’t tell you that you have to do it again now. In two years? Sure. Then. However, if they haven’t been done, then it is time now.

The HVAC air filter quote of $800 is simply theft. The filters are <$75 from any non-rip-off source even in “Porsche Boxes.” Installation is 15 minutes tops and requires only a stubby flat head screwdriver.

If nothing else, do that one yourself. There are plenty of youtube videos.

If the quote is for engine air filters and both pollen filters then the quote for engine air filters is strange and the quote for pollen filters is still theft.

These again seem like quotes for a non-Turbo 991 whereas on a Turbo the work is more involved than for a 991S,GTS,etc.

Drive belt is 6/60. At 22k, if conditions are as above (no salt) then this too is unnecessary right now.

Same as above for PDCC res.

Now *maybe* it is possible that the dealer is pricing those operations (and plug change) to account for the non-trivial common labor involved in all the tasks.

But, I very much doubt it.

Given the incorrect nomenclature for a 991 I would be skeptical that these service quotes are correct from both a task and price standpoint.. From @mffarrell very useful post of the service information you can see that the closest guess for what the dealer might intend are not due until 12 years or service.

Bluemax2

Yeah that's not right at all. I would ask someone in your local PCA chapter for a Independent shop in your area. The local PCA would have several recommendations for you.

I have a 2016 also. And those prices they quoted you is beyond ridiculous.

RSBro

They're probably just going by the 'official' Porsche timing checklist, despite your mileage, if it's a 2016 car.

Total rip off, you don't need most all of that, as mentioned. I HIGHLY recommend the brake fluid flush though, I'm required by my PCA chapter to change mine at least annually for HPDE events, but even for regular maintenance I'd do annually. Makes a difference IME.

Tannedbrown

Porsche of Engelwood NJ

Also my Turbo S is a Cab - I see there is a service for the converytible top - is that required? My top works fine (knock on wood)

Tannedbrown

I have been servicing at an indy shop since the car came off the factory warranty -
funny story, a few months ago I was looking to trade in this car against my newly ordered 2024 Targa and I was offered a trade in that was quite ridiculous (at least $10K less than what I was offered by other Non-Porsche dealers) - I was told that since you have not been servicing at the Porsche dealership, we are bound to offer you a lower trade in

RSBro

Yep, unfortunately that happened to me on my 991.1 C2 when I traded it in for my current Turbo. For everything major I let the dealership service it for this reason, for now, all the track-related stuff I have another tech who does it and it hits CarFax, so it's not sketchy. I had the best Indy in the area care for my .1 C2 but it doesn't matter when trading in.

Penn4S

Porsche recommends service be tied to years/age not strictly mileage. As parts age also. I do oil changes annually even thought I put around 6k on the car in a year.
So dealer is not incorrect based on Porsche recommendations. But dealer pricing is almost illegal. Before and after my car was out of warranty I used Porsche specific Independent shops for most work. Now I’m 100% Indy maintenance. I like to use 5w50 oil for Florida heat. I buy my own Mobil 1 and my Indy does the work for less than $200. Same with most other large maintenance jobs. Dealer is always 40-60% higher.
My car is 10 years old with a tune and other mods and runs like the day I bought it. If you don’t put a lot of miles on your car or it’s a low mileage car this may seem illogical but parts and fluid age from time not just miles or use.

Highline-Autos.com

On an 8 year old car, it wouldn't be bad to have these items done. However I'd talk to a Porsche specialist/Indy for the larger services like these, probably out the door for at least half the cost.

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