Rmas99

Love my 992.1 touring buy besides sofas, I hate the suspension tune once living on the awful polish roads. I heard hardware wise are exactly the same. Is all about tuning. Would be so difficult to make them similar?

Angryinch

992.1*

Rmas99

thanks

Chris C.

+ 1 on this want

Yes I know a lot of things changed on the S/T including rear steer, front rack, roll bars etc. Wheels and tires are the same and weight pretty close = wheel rates close? Curious is DSC or someone will reverse engineer (or approximate to the same driving result) the PASM code and make a controller swap for us.

S/T clearly got the development time our Covid launch Touring cars didn't

PTS

The weight difference in the wheels is quite substantial

Justaroofer

They slowed the front rack down and softened the suspension. Essentially mitigating any harshness or bump steer. Spongy front end with RWS will definitely give the more old world Porsche feel. Just odd people would want to Essentially unwind the advances that motorsport made putting the GT3 together.

I think a user here put it well, the accurate cross comparables would be the Carrera T to the ST. Same path of approach, different power plants.

Jbravo23

The weight of the wheels is also helping with the ride.

I noticed a difference when installing mags on my 991.2. That removed over 30lbs and when hitting bumps the car felt a little bit softer. Steering lightness was felt instantly.

Most, but not all s/t reviews have been on pirellis. Mags and pirellis would probably be as good as you could get on gt3/touring without messing about with the dampening.

nullspace

If you haven't already, switch to a less aggressive tire. What you give up on ultimate grip is meaningless on the street and makes a big difference in ride quality.

I also changed the alignment from factory toe-out to a little toe-in. That doesn't affect ride but it does calm the car just a tad, which helps with the perception of it being busy/harsh. Impacts aren't as likely to upset the car.

Combined, these changes make the car far more livable while still being a GT. We're not talking night and day of course, but a little goes a long way. The car is very responsive to minor adjustments.

PS - if you think the ride quality is bad with sofas, you should be thankful you don't have buckets.

JOSCAL

Early days but I’m finding my Tourings ride is better than my 991.2 GT3 with DSC controller🧐🤔

Both have sofas (I hated the buckets in my GT4 despite acknowledging they are the coolest seats ever)

My OPC is great so I wonder if mine has been set up right from the start?

My only issue is a bad rattle/vibration from the vent/speaker area.

Rmas99

I'm the one that find the michelin much nicer on terms of design than the pirellis? I didn't changed yet afraid of spoiling the car look.

Chris C.

I think the S/T is proof it's not unwinding, rather advancing what was created for track use and put out on a "Touring" model that Porsche could have developed more given more time and a desire to execute on an actual Touring. Don't understand the "T" analogy as the motors are highly comparable in this case

Chris C.

Yes, and yes I believe you! Track day next weekend where I will hope to dispose of a lot of my Cup2s to justify road mannered tires.

Chris C.

I have experienced this in the past too.

Good point on the mags being much lighter - overlooked that.

Still DSC could use the OEM settings as a start to take some of the shock off of the initial reaction to bad roads. I am a fan of a tight and lowered ride BTW, but you have to know the roads around here in the Europe be shamed tax center of the US before you judge. DSC fixed my 991.1 SPASM ride to acceptable by taking some of the harshness out. I've emailed them to ask

Diablo Dude

Love my Pirelli's and sofas!
Very compliant.

Rmas99

but you think they look worst than michelin?
i love this look