GT3 touring with S/T suspension tune
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"Thanks for your inquiry. The 992 DSC controller has been in development. This one is taking a lot longer time because Porsche switched from conventional CAN bus to FlexRay communication. We can tune the dampers themselves easily but full integration to the car is a huge undertaking. At this time we don’t have more info but we are actively working on the development. We aware of the potential market and we know where can make improvements on the damper commands. Please stay tuned to our social media. Tom"
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Manthey Racing Package - 992 GT3 Touring : Suncoast Porsche Parts & Accessories (suncoastparts.com)
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They slowed the front rack down and softened the suspension. Essentially mitigating any harshness or bump steer. Spongy front end with RWS will definitely give the more old world Porsche feel. Just odd people would want to Essentially unwind the advances that motorsport made putting the GT3 together.
I think a user here put it well, the accurate cross comparables would be the Carrera T to the ST. Same path of approach, different power plants.
I think a user here put it well, the accurate cross comparables would be the Carrera T to the ST. Same path of approach, different power plants.
I don't think it is odd at all really. Think about it, most do not track (this forum is an exception and not a real representation of the market), and just want the image or "the best new thing". This allows them to have it, without having basically a track car with track suspension on non-track public roads, which by and large are not maintained nearly as well as a dedicated track surface.
Modern "track specials" are designed as track car first and street cars second, while years ago, it was reversed. IMO this is a problem. If you want a true track car to track, you should just buy a dedicated track/race car.
Unless you have a really advanced suspension (like McLaren's hydraulic system or GM's Magnetic dampers) you can not have a true dual personality car, you have to pick one or the other. PASM isn't advanced enough or quick reacting enough to be a true dual nature.
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Some people complain the GT3 is too harsh for the street, so if it's not a dedicated track car for them, they bought the wrong car. The fact of the matter is the GT3 is not for everyone, and some people find out the hard way, then complain about it's harshness.
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It's quite obvious via many threads/posts that street feel with current GT3 suspension is subjective. I daily drive my Touring and track it multiple times per year and I think it's about as well balanced for both as a car can be from the factory. Last track day was a private rental, drove the Touring there (28 miles each way), put 107 hard laps on the car (9am - 5pm), then drove it home without a single hiccup.
Some people complain the GT3 is too harsh for the street, so if it's not a dedicated track car for them, they bought the wrong car. The fact of the matter is the GT3 is not for everyone, and some people find out the hard way, then complain about it's harshness.
Some people complain the GT3 is too harsh for the street, so if it's not a dedicated track car for them, they bought the wrong car. The fact of the matter is the GT3 is not for everyone, and some people find out the hard way, then complain about it's harshness.
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It's quite obvious via many threads/posts that street feel with current GT3 suspension is subjective. I daily drive my Touring and track it multiple times per year and I think it's about as well balanced for both as a car can be from the factory. Last track day was a private rental, drove the Touring there (28 miles each way), put 107 hard laps on the car (9am - 5pm), then drove it home without a single hiccup.
Some people complain the GT3 is too harsh for the street, so if it's not a dedicated track car for them, they bought the wrong car. The fact of the matter is the GT3 is not for everyone, and some people find out the hard way, then complain about its harshness.
Some people complain the GT3 is too harsh for the street, so if it's not a dedicated track car for them, they bought the wrong car. The fact of the matter is the GT3 is not for everyone, and some people find out the hard way, then complain about its harshness.
BMW listened to the peanut gallery and one of their engineers has been on record saying that they overboosted the steering and reduced feedback because customers complained the steering was not isolated enough and hard to park. It's a wonder Porsche hasn't done the same.
The GT3 should be an event and specialized and not for everyone. If anything, route those folks to the Turbo S where they will be honestly happier.
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It's quite obvious via many threads/posts that street feel with current GT3 suspension is subjective. I daily drive my Touring and track it multiple times per year and I think it's about as well balanced for both as a car can be from the factory. Last track day was a private rental, drove the Touring there (28 miles each way), put 107 hard laps on the car (9am - 5pm), then drove it home without a single hiccup.
Some people complain the GT3 is too harsh for the street, so if it's not a dedicated track car for them, they bought the wrong car. The fact of the matter is the GT3 is not for everyone, and some people find out the hard way, then complain about it's harshness.
Some people complain the GT3 is too harsh for the street, so if it's not a dedicated track car for them, they bought the wrong car. The fact of the matter is the GT3 is not for everyone, and some people find out the hard way, then complain about it's harshness.
Note for the masses.... connection starts at the wheel, not the gear box.
I'm sorry, but I think it's a little ridiculous to complain about a GT3 being harsh. Sometime I wonder if people really know what a truly harsh suspension feels like.
BMW listened to the peanut gallery and one of their engineers has been on record saying that they overboosted the steering and reduced feedback because customers complained the steering was not isolated enough and hard to park. It's a wonder Porsche hasn't done the same.
The GT3 should be an event and specialized and not for everyone. If anything, route those folks to the Turbo S where they will be honestly happier.
BMW listened to the peanut gallery and one of their engineers has been on record saying that they overboosted the steering and reduced feedback because customers complained the steering was not isolated enough and hard to park. It's a wonder Porsche hasn't done the same.
The GT3 should be an event and specialized and not for everyone. If anything, route those folks to the Turbo S where they will be honestly happier.
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I agree. Provides too much confidence. The thing on the TTS is its a significantly different powerband and thats one of the biggest things on the GT3 cars is the average GT3 guy shoots for the Revs and sounds and not the speed.
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^ Some other things he said in the video...
- The car handles sensationally and gives you nice feedback in the steering
- I can't get the grin out of my face.
- It's been a long time since a car has given me that much trust
- This car is so simple and so pure, no rear-axle steering saves weight, magnesium wheels, ceramic brake, roof carbon, the chassis parts also carbon
- This car is a damn poem that's the reason many may ask themselves, wait a minute GT3 Touring costs €100,000 less. Why? Because the whole car changed
- You wouldn't believe how cool this car drives and how easily it drives
- Precision to be honest, this is the best car I've ever driven
- The car handles sensationally and gives you nice feedback in the steering
- I can't get the grin out of my face.
- It's been a long time since a car has given me that much trust
- This car is so simple and so pure, no rear-axle steering saves weight, magnesium wheels, ceramic brake, roof carbon, the chassis parts also carbon
- This car is a damn poem that's the reason many may ask themselves, wait a minute GT3 Touring costs €100,000 less. Why? Because the whole car changed
- You wouldn't believe how cool this car drives and how easily it drives
- Precision to be honest, this is the best car I've ever driven
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^ Some other things he said in the video...
- The car handles sensationally and gives you nice feedback in the steering
- I can't get the grin out of my face.
- It's been a long time since a car has given me that much trust
- This car is so simple and so pure, no rear-axle steering saves weight, magnesium wheels, ceramic brake, roof carbon, the chassis parts also carbon
- This car is a damn poem that's the reason many may ask themselves, wait a minute GT3 Touring costs €100,000 less. Why? Because the whole car changed
- You wouldn't believe how cool this car drives and how easily it drives
- Precision to be honest, this is the best car I've ever driven
- The car handles sensationally and gives you nice feedback in the steering
- I can't get the grin out of my face.
- It's been a long time since a car has given me that much trust
- This car is so simple and so pure, no rear-axle steering saves weight, magnesium wheels, ceramic brake, roof carbon, the chassis parts also carbon
- This car is a damn poem that's the reason many may ask themselves, wait a minute GT3 Touring costs €100,000 less. Why? Because the whole car changed
- You wouldn't believe how cool this car drives and how easily it drives
- Precision to be honest, this is the best car I've ever driven
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