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Old 01-18-2019, 02:26 PM
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Hello RL,

Any discernible reason to choose the .1 or .2 over the other? I do think the headlights on the .2 look better but not so much that I would pass up on a great deal for a .1. I am aware of the IMS bearing being different in the earlier 996s but not too worried about that either with the permanent solutions being available for either model. I don't think there were any other issues other than the IMS, right? I've always been told that the 996 is a great, reliable car when the IMS is taken care of.

So if the headlight design is a non-issue, does it really matter what year?

The goal is a C2 or C2S, manual transmission, coupe. This car will get driven quite a bit and possibly a PCA event here or there as I live just 7 miles from Road Atlanta.

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Both are great cars. Do a bit more research, there ARE other differences. I believe things like cup holders, glove box, throttle cable vs. e-throttle (99s had cable). One isn't vastly superior to the other though. My best advice, buy the nicest car you can find and afford that meets your criteria of features.

They didn't make a C2S 996, so if you want the wide body you'll need to find a C4S.

Enjoy the shopping process, its a lot of fun, and not something many people get to do (shop for and buy a 911), so savor it. Make sure to get out and see the cars in person. Internet shopping is great, but you don't get to see details the way you do in person.
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3.4l - 3.6l and 20 hp difference .2 has quite a bit of updates/improvements over the .1. The main expensive one is that the ,2 gearbox is tougher. .1 is drive by wire, known to rust out and require replacement.
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Originally Posted by charlieaf92
Both are great cars. Do a bit more research, there ARE other differences. I believe things like cup holders, glove box, throttle cable vs. e-throttle (99s had cable). One isn't vastly superior to the other though. My best advice, buy the nicest car you can find and afford that meets your criteria of features.

They didn't make a C2S 996, so if you want the wide body you'll need to find a C4S.

Enjoy the shopping process, its a lot of fun, and not something many people get to do (shop for and buy a 911), so savor it. Make sure to get out and see the cars in person. Internet shopping is great, but you don't get to see details the way you do in person.
Gotcha, I had drove a couple C4S 996s and naturally assumed there was a C2S. I've driven the 996.2 C2 and thought it had great power, more than enough to have a lot of fun in.
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Originally Posted by jumper5836
3.4l - 3.6l and 20 hp difference .2 has quite a bit of updates/improvements over the .1. The main expensive one is that the ,2 gearbox is tougher. .1 is drive by wire, known to rust out and require replacement.
That's exactly what I wanted to know! Not too worried about the 20hp but the stronger drive train is a definite plus.
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Kind of goofy but I think the glovebox and cup holders are important. I drive my car a lot (10k miles a year) and having the cup holder is a major convenience. Not having a glovebox would annoy the crap out of me, not that I keep a lot in it but it was just stupid that they didn’t have it from the start.
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Originally Posted by jimham968
Kind of goofy but I think the glovebox and cup holders are important. I drive my car a lot (10k miles a year) and having the cup holder is a major convenience. Not having a glovebox would annoy the crap out of me, not that I keep a lot in it but it was just stupid that they didn’t have it from the start.
I'm assuming the .1 does not have a glove box?
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Originally Posted by jumper5836
.1 is drive by wire, known to rust out and require replacement.
The ‘99 has a throttle cable. I think that’s what you meant. “Drive by wire” means there is no mechanical connection between the accelerator pedal and the throttle butterfly - it is controlled by electronic signal via wired connection, hence the name. But only the ‘99 has the throttle cable, as I understand it.
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I like the added power and appearance of the .2, many feel like the .1 offers a more pure 911 experience.

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The 996.1 has
* Dual row ims bearing
* Throttle by Cable
* LSD option
* Lighter
* No CEL when upgrading to GT3 master cylinder
* JR says, "it's the one to buy"
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Originally Posted by bull3t
The 996.1 has
* Dual row ims bearing
* Throttle by Cable
* LSD option
* Lighter
* No CEL when upgrading to GT3 master cylinder
And THAT'S why a '99 C2 is in my garage.

Originally Posted by bull3t
* JR says, "it's the one to buy"
JR's endorsement a plus.

Last edited by jobyt; 01-18-2019 at 04:22 PM. Reason: Correct model information
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Originally Posted by bull3t
The 996.1 has
* Dual row ims bearing
* Throttle by Cable
* LSD option
* Lighter
* No CEL when upgrading to GT3 master cylinder
* JR says, "it's the one to buy"
I think the above should say the "1999 996" has the above features.....but if you have a 99 C4 like I have, it DOES NOT have a throttle cable, it's a throttle by wire, so that is only applicable to the 99 C2's.
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Originally Posted by Paul Waterloo
I think the above should say the "1999 996" has the above features.....but if you have a 99 C4 like I have, it DOES NOT have a throttle cable, it's a throttle by wire, so that is only applicable to the 99 C2's.
If you read OP's first post it says his goal is a C2
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Originally Posted by Hulley
I'm assuming the .1 does not have a glove box?
correct

I have one of each, and would choose the 996.2 any day of the week.
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Originally Posted by bull3t
The 996.1 has
* Dual row ims bearing
* Throttle by Cable
* LSD option
* Lighter
* No CEL when upgrading to GT3 master cylinder
* JR says, "it's the one to buy"
Inaccurate....2000+ ones could have single row. JR's stated pref was for a 99 or earlier build in manual with a 4-spoke wheel, as I recall.


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