Porsche Drivers Council: Focus Group
05-31-2018, 12:38 AM
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Porsche Drivers Council: Focus Group
Well just finished a 4 hour focus group today, very through and professional, let’s hope my feedback will be useful, lots of cool things to see. I hope I will get invited to more events like this, they really seem to want to get very detailed opinions on stuff from owners. I wish I could tell you more about what I saw, but they had us sign NDAs, no phones, etc, walk through metal detectors, I have never done this before, it was pretty cool.
05-31-2018, 03:12 PM
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Fascinating.
At PEC LA?
At PEC LA?
05-31-2018, 04:00 PM
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Nope, it was hosted at a large city convention center, high security. Again just wanted to post they are asking owners for feedback. Let’s just hope we are all asking for the Right Stuff, lol.
05-31-2018, 08:20 PM
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Hope you were paid?
05-31-2018, 08:37 PM
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Yes, they did pay us but that was not the reason I attended. Getting to see and touch what was there was well with my time alone. It also did not hurt it was 1/2 mile from my office,
06-04-2018, 11:29 PM
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Face it, most of us would actually pay to participate in something like this.
What i can’t get on board with is the actual usefulness from the Porsche standpoint. The car is so far along into production, what can they really change at this point? Honest question. Still cool as hell though.
What i can’t get on board with is the actual usefulness from the Porsche standpoint. The car is so far along into production, what can they really change at this point? Honest question. Still cool as hell though.
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06-04-2018, 11:54 PM
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Face it, most of us would actually pay to participate in something like this.
What i can’t get on board with is the actual usefulness from the Porsche standpoint. The car is so far along into production, what can they really change at this point? Honest question. Still cool as hell though.
What i can’t get on board with is the actual usefulness from the Porsche standpoint. The car is so far along into production, what can they really change at this point? Honest question. Still cool as hell though.
06-10-2018, 08:01 PM
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Shame me they didn’t ask you about the name. Taycan. Ugh.
07-19-2018, 03:51 PM
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Ha, I attended this, and Porsche called me this week to remind me of the NDA -they had rennlist delete a post I made. I had completely spaced the NDA, especially considering all the spy photos and info out there. My bad, but they were cool. Awesome they read the forums!
07-19-2018, 11:19 PM
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Wow, well okay, it is great to hear that they actually read the forum. Now please fix the sound on the 992!!!!! Get a great sound for us so we don't need to listen to the radio because we are intoxicated by the awesome Porsche boxer 6 sounds. Especially correct the weak PSE that came out with the 991.2 There is hardly any noticeable difference. In the past Porsche Sport Exhaust PSE was amazing so let's make this happen for real this time in the new 992!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Most of my past 911s have sounded awesome. This turbo arena needs a balance of quality exhaust sound; at least in the USA.
If the rumors are accurate that we are only getting a 14-15 Hbp bump with the 992 that is not sufficient. Please match the rest of the performance car industry as they climb up the horsepower and torque numbers while we can. This era never last long. Most of us 911 drivers would like to see 30 Hbp increase not a tiny 14 bump. You cannot feel that difference. Come-0n Man...take care of us. We spend the dollars so give us MO Power / Torque too....Please.
If the rumors are accurate that we are only getting a 14-15 Hbp bump with the 992 that is not sufficient. Please match the rest of the performance car industry as they climb up the horsepower and torque numbers while we can. This era never last long. Most of us 911 drivers would like to see 30 Hbp increase not a tiny 14 bump. You cannot feel that difference. Come-0n Man...take care of us. We spend the dollars so give us MO Power / Torque too....Please.
07-20-2018, 03:14 PM
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Ha, I attended this, and Porsche called me this week to remind me of the NDA -they had rennlist delete a post I made. I had completely spaced the NDA, especially considering all the spy photos and info out there. My bad, but they were cool. Awesome they read the forums!
This entire website is unofficial and Porsche is officially agnostic to its existence.
Furthermore, how would they connect your identity to your online persona?
07-21-2018, 06:16 PM
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How did they have Rennlist delete a post?
This entire website is unofficial and Porsche is officially agnostic to its existence.
Furthermore, how would they connect your identity to your online persona?
This entire website is unofficial and Porsche is officially agnostic to its existence.
Furthermore, how would they connect your identity to your online persona?
Did they abduct him??
07-21-2018, 08:31 PM
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Wow, well okay, it is great to hear that they actually read the forum. Now please fix the sound on the 992!!!!! Get a great sound for us so we don't need to listen to the radio because we are intoxicated by the awesome Porsche boxer 6 sounds. Especially correct the weak PSE that came out with the 991.2 There is hardly any noticeable difference. In the past Porsche Sport Exhaust PSE was amazing so let's make this happen for real this time in the new 992!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Most of my past 911s have sounded awesome. This turbo arena needs a balance of quality exhaust sound; at least in the USA.
If the rumors are accurate that we are only getting a 14-15 Hbp bump with the 992 that is not sufficient. Please match the rest of the performance car industry as they climb up the horsepower and torque numbers while we can. This era never last long. Most of us 911 drivers would like to see 30 Hbp increase not a tiny 14 bump. You cannot feel that difference. Come-0n Man...take care of us. We spend the dollars so give us MO Power / Torque too....Please.
If the rumors are accurate that we are only getting a 14-15 Hbp bump with the 992 that is not sufficient. Please match the rest of the performance car industry as they climb up the horsepower and torque numbers while we can. This era never last long. Most of us 911 drivers would like to see 30 Hbp increase not a tiny 14 bump. You cannot feel that difference. Come-0n Man...take care of us. We spend the dollars so give us MO Power / Torque too....Please.
So I don't think another 14-15 hp is terribly necessary, but I wouldn't mind a small bump in power either. I could live without it and I'm sure it will still feel very rapid. As far needing at least 30+ hp and "matching the industry"... at what point does it end? It's not like speed limits are changing. Also, our ability to survive high speed incidents (both on the steet and the track) via passive safety is reaching a point of diminishing returns because we can't overcome physics. Are you advocating we keep increasing power ad infinitum or is there an eventual limit/power output/acceleration number/top speed/lap time you have in mind for the 992?
TBH I instead hope the 992 ends up being a bit lighter because that would serve to improve the car in whole host of ways. Handling, braking distances, fuel economy/efficiency (not that I, or probably most 911 owners, care that much), and even straight line performance would all be better. Obviously we'll at some point more or less reach a limit for how much weight we can reduce while still maintaining a certain footprint, level of safety, and refinement. But for now, I think there's still some of progress to be made on that front. So with that, I hope the 992 will be lighter and better! If it's also more powerful (which I'm sure it will be), that's cool too! It's just less of a priority for me. If my main concern was pure straight line speed, I wouldn't be that interested in Porsches to begin with.
07-21-2018, 10:45 PM
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Hey SimonSays, I am in agreement with you. You broke down more specifically the areas that will improve the performance of the 992 and I am in agreement.
Thank you!!! If the 992 has even a few of the items that you discussed the new model will be significantly improved.
Hey SimonSays, I am in agreement with you. You broke down more specifically the areas that will improve the performance of the 992 and I am in agreement.
Thank you!!! If the 992 has even a few of the items that you discussed the new model will be significantly improved.