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Old 04-19-2018, 02:17 AM
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Default GT3.2 and GT3.1 vs 700 hp M6

this video shows you how much stronger the .2 engine is.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bKrtWV-LOec
Old 04-19-2018, 02:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Chris3963
this video shows you how much stronger the .2 engine is.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bKrtWV-LOec
thanks for vid. Clear difference right there.

all the guys who have driven .2s and say they can’t feel a difference between a .1 and a .2, need to have their butt dyno calibrated.
Old 04-19-2018, 02:39 AM
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that is really impressive difference.. i wish we could have seen a .1 vs .2 directly.. but that was enough. the .2 definitely flet stronger than the .1.. but its nice to see it as a more definitive improvement.
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The comments are kind of funny. People actually think the 4.0 only has 25 bhp more haha.
Old 04-19-2018, 02:52 AM
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Originally Posted by CAlexio
that is really impressive difference.. i wish we could have seen a .1 vs .2 directly.. but that was enough. the .2 definitely flet stronger than the .1.. but its nice to see it as a more definitive improvement.

8-10 car lengths
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i said that .2 is quite a bit vbetter then .1 long ago.
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Originally Posted by CAlexio
that is really impressive difference.. i wish we could have seen a .1 vs .2 directly.. but that was enough. the .2 definitely flet stronger than the .1.. but its nice to see it as a more definitive improvement.
I have a .2 PDK and drove both .2PDK and .1 back to back at Silverstone last year..There is a distinct difference between the two in terms of power delivery which can mask any real performance gains..The .1 IMO feels pretty gutless below 5k in comparison to the .2,however at about 6k it takes off like a scalded cat and at that point it gives the impression of being at least as quick as the .2..The .2 feels a lot torquier below 5k, with the one caveat that when it comes on cam at 6k the change feels less dramatic but ultimately faster..
The top end of the .1 feels more dramatic at the top end purely because the final rush of revs is more concentrated in the 8-9k range where the .2's final rush starts at about 7k..
All this serves to confuse the butt dynamo into thinking both cars have equal performance and its not until you pitch both against the stop watch you realise that the .2 is in a different league because the power is more uniform right through the rev range..
Both are pretty awesome cars and any .1 owners should not feel short changed.
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Originally Posted by Drifting
all the guys who have driven .2s and say they can’t feel a difference between a .1 and a .2, need to have their butt dyno calibrated.
Sounds like fun! Is that a European thing or something?
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Originally Posted by Taffy66
I have a .2 PDK and drove both .2PDK and .1 back to back at Silverstone last year..There is a distinct difference between the two in terms of power delivery which can mask any real performance gains..The .1 IMO feels pretty gutless below 5k in comparison to the .2,however at about 6k it takes off like a scalded cat and at that point it gives the impression of being at least as quick as the .2..The .2 feels a lot torquier below 5k, with the one caveat that when it comes on cam at 6k the change feels less dramatic but ultimately faster..
The top end of the .1 feels more dramatic at the top end purely because the final rush of revs is more concentrated in the 8-9k range where the .2's final rush starts at about 7k..
All this serves to confuse the butt dynamo into thinking both cars have equal performance and its not until you pitch both against the stop watch you realise that the .2 is in a different league because the power is more uniform right through the rev range..
Both are pretty awesome cars and any .1 owners should not feel short changed.
Agree I believe these characteristics of the .2 also contribute to making tthe car more enjoyable and usable at lower speeds off track.
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Just goes to show you that HP ratings aren’t everything. Even the 475 HP GT3 did very well against that 700 HP M6.
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Originally Posted by robmypro
Just goes to show you that HP ratings aren’t everything. Even the 475 HP GT3 did very well against that 700 HP M6.
True but BMWs are heavy so they need the HP to lug the car around. Great daily driver's but when I think of sport cars BMW never comes to mind
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Originally Posted by Jimmy-D
True but BMWs are heavy so they need the HP to lug the car around. Great daily driver's but when I think of sport cars BMW never comes to mind
As an owner of a 550i I hear you Jimmy. I guess that was my point. HP isn’t everything. There’s weight, transmission, aero, traction, tires, etc. Horespower is just one factor, albeit a big one.
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Originally Posted by _fletch
Sounds like fun! Is that a European thing or something?
I think there is a fair amount of leather involved
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Originally Posted by Drifting
all the guys who have driven .2s and say they can’t feel a difference between a .1 and a .2, need to have their butt dyno calibrated.
I think part of the perception is the other differences in the cars. The suspension on the .2 is more supple, the ride is less harsh. The PDK on the .2 isn't as violent when it shifts. I don't think the 'sport' mode on the .2 changes the shift patterns as radically as on the .1 either. The .2 doesn't seem to blast through the revs as fast as the .1. The .2 lacks some of the mechanical noises of the .1. The .2 seems to be overall more quiet than the .1.

All the factors that make the .2 a better street car contribute to the perception that the .1 is faster. It's not just the butt dyno, it's all the other senses that contribute to the sensation. All the noise and drama of the .1 makes it seem faster when, in fact, it's not - as clearly shown here.
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Originally Posted by _fletch
Sounds like fun! Is that a European thing or something?
I like your sarcasm and humor.


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