JGC930

I have been looking for a while for a GT2RS, I found an example that meets my criteria on mileage, colors and spec, I had agreed on a price but I asked for the DME report and got

1,300 in range 4 and 151 in range 5, car has right around 4k miles

It has been 67 hours since the range 4 and 5 and more than 50 since the last one in range one, the car looks to be in great condition and no signs of abuse.

I have read all the threads on this matter and found mixed opinions, what Im worried about is in the future if I choose to sell it I might have a hard time finding a buyer with this ignitions.
Should I be that worried?

Mr. Adair

Never an easy question right? There are far more experienced Porsche people on this list than myself.

-Seems like a crazy number in range 4 and way to many in 5.
-I think it would effect future buyers
-How much do you know about the previous owners?

All of that said the cars are built like tanks and you may never even have an issue with it. If the price reflects the DME and if it's a great buy maybe. Or maybe if you are going to keep it as yours forever. If the car is priced at the top of the GT2 market price wise no way. There are better cars out there for sure. These things are about emotion and it's easy to get caught up in the want. But future buyers probably will not like that DME...

Runner

Run! Range 1 is nothing more than hitting the rev limiter and it is normal to have thousands in this area - especially if tracked. Normal to see some hits in Range 2 - but not many. Anything in range 4 or 5 is a concern. I can't imagine that many in range 4. Wow!!! Run!

manouk

What runner said. Owned one for 3 years and range 1 is almost impossible to avoid but 4-5 range smells abuse. You'll have a very hard time selling if u ever decide too

jaundice

Before I bought my 997.2 GT3, I spent several months looking at and researching 998.2 turbos. Every car I looked at had ignitions that an NA car wouldn't have.

Turbo cars are supposedly different. If there is a tune on it (very likely) they always raise the rev limit as part of a turbo tune which makes all these turbo cars have a ton of ignitions that most of us would run from. Ask about a tune. Get a compression check and leak down.

Search ignition ranges on tuned turbo cars. Usually any range 5 ignitions will render a motor hurt, but I would suspect with that many in 4 and some in 5, it's tune related. I also remember that the turbo cars have a different rev range for the ignitions than the NA cars do. A little search will help you decide.

osu s2k

Before you get all kinds of advise and jump off the deep end. Read this. Helped me a lot. In the turbo mezgers, 1,2,3 s are common

http://www.911virgin.com/porsche/rev-range-information/

JGC930

Thanks for all the advise, I wouldnt be considering it at all but after searching for some time I found the exact color combination Id like, it has a full black interior (I dont like the red interiors on these) and everything seemed great until the DME report.

It is supposed to be stock no tunes or anything, there is a lot of mixed opinions on this matter and if I ever sell the car (I plan to keep it long term) it will be a hassle to be explaining all this to a buyer

mooty

i disagree.
now range 5 is not good, but 1xx is not too bad
range 4 in a turbo car is actually pretty common.
i dont know why. but i see a lot of DME reports. 100's. turbo even street driven stock motor i see many many in range 4. i bought one for a friend with range 5. zero issues

if u like the car. i would do a compression and leakdown

r6elmo

delete

r6elmo

what ^^^ said.

another thing is you can post in the 997 Turbo forums and they could give you some thoughts.

powdrhound

I wouldn't sweat it too much at all. Range 4 is 7400-7900 and range 5 is 7900+. You only have 151 ignitions over 7900 which is a few milliseconds. I have a 3.8 Turbo Mezger in my car and redline is set at 7500. I see 7500-7900 on data all day long a have 60+ Track hrs on the engine without issues. Granted the engine is built but even the stock motors can handle much higher revs.

Runner

So the DME report means nothing on a turbo.? Range 4 or 5 meh....it's a turbo. Is there a range 6?

powdrhound

9000+

FLT6SPD

Did you check the engine case number to see if its been replaced? If not I would buy it for $60k less than asking and rebuild to a 4.2 problem solved...



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secretcollector

You've asked for advice, here's mine:

The GT2RS has firmly been established as an important collectible car both within and outside of the Porsche world. Because collectors have been and are buying them, prices have gone way up and will likely continue to in the future. When a collector analyzes a car, there is one word that shuts down the conversation almost 100% of the time, and that's "BUT".

You say that you've buying the car to enjoy and hold for the long-term, thus you can have a more thorough engine inspection performed and if all good, buy the car based on these parameters. But know that whenever you go to sell the car, it will always have a major BUT, ruling out the collectors, limiting your market and reducing its value.

I don't know what your criteria are other than the all-black interior, but there are one or two people that should be able to find you one without any but's.