How bad if an idea is this: 911 SC racer for street use
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How bad if an idea is this: 911 SC racer for street use
I am a current 996TT owner (not a DD) who has been hankering for an air cooled 911 to play around with that is:
1) in decent mechanical shape
2) not so pristine that I would hesitate to drive it hard and customize it
3) not so valuable that I wouldn't want to do #2
Something like this one http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1979-porsche-911sc-4/
I have found a 911SC race car that has about 15 hours on a rebuilt motor, not cosmetically perfect but seems well sorted. But, with racing suspension, etc.
How bad of an idea is this? Probably impossible to answer but thought I'd throw it out there. Also, any tips on convincing my wife that this isn't insane would be welcome.
1) in decent mechanical shape
2) not so pristine that I would hesitate to drive it hard and customize it
3) not so valuable that I wouldn't want to do #2
Something like this one http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1979-porsche-911sc-4/
I have found a 911SC race car that has about 15 hours on a rebuilt motor, not cosmetically perfect but seems well sorted. But, with racing suspension, etc.
How bad of an idea is this? Probably impossible to answer but thought I'd throw it out there. Also, any tips on convincing my wife that this isn't insane would be welcome.
#3
If that link is the car you are thinking of buying, there is nothing racecar about it except the Wevo shifter, oil cooler, and door pulls; nothing they are talking about is 'racing suspension'. That car is not race-legal for PCA, SCCA, or vintage. So while it may have been tracked, or run in autocross, it certainly was not "raced". That's a good thing if you want it as a street car, and it seems a totally reasonable car for that purpose.
#4
My buddy has a track prepped Carrera and mine is 100% stock . He doesn't track it, just bought it that way .
The only thing he doesn't like about it is the harsh ride, but you are only a set of shocks away from a daily driver if it is uncomfortable.
The only thing he doesn't like about it is the harsh ride, but you are only a set of shocks away from a daily driver if it is uncomfortable.
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I am a current 996TT owner (not a DD) who has been hankering for an air cooled 911 to play around with that is:
1) in decent mechanical shape
2) not so pristine that I would hesitate to drive it hard and customize it
3) not so valuable that I wouldn't want to do #2
Something like this one http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1979-porsche-911sc-4/
I have found a 911SC race car that has about 15 hours on a rebuilt motor, not cosmetically perfect but seems well sorted. But, with racing suspension, etc.
How bad of an idea is this? Probably impossible to answer but thought I'd throw it out there. Also, any tips on convincing my wife that this isn't insane would be welcome.
1) in decent mechanical shape
2) not so pristine that I would hesitate to drive it hard and customize it
3) not so valuable that I wouldn't want to do #2
Something like this one http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1979-porsche-911sc-4/
I have found a 911SC race car that has about 15 hours on a rebuilt motor, not cosmetically perfect but seems well sorted. But, with racing suspension, etc.
How bad of an idea is this? Probably impossible to answer but thought I'd throw it out there. Also, any tips on convincing my wife that this isn't insane would be welcome.
If you are looking for an additional 911 to play with, the 1978-1983SC is a great place to start given what you get for market price point. 25-40k.
The car you speak of at BAT is a hot rodded street car. It may have seen D.E duty in its life, but was never a certified race car.
The mods appear tastefully done. The car is not original so value is gone out the window in terms of collectability, which means you can have fun with this car.
I am actually looking to do some of the same thing to my street 1979SC.
Same front and rear bumpers etc..
If you can get this car for under $30k you would be doing ok. (i anticipate a reserve of 35k)
Typically a roller or tired SC would be 20-25k to start. then you would have to spend a bunch more to get it to the level you see on BAT.
The car is not perfect paint etc, but it appears you would have a hot rod that you could beat on and enjoy for not awhole lot of money (in porsche dollars) which is what you are looking for.
I am kinda diggin' the red and gold color!
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I am a current 996TT owner (not a DD) who has been hankering for an air cooled 911 to play around with that is:
1) in decent mechanical shape
2) not so pristine that I would hesitate to drive it hard and customize it
3) not so valuable that I wouldn't want to do #2
Something like this one http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1979-porsche-911sc-4/
I have found a 911SC race car that has about 15 hours on a rebuilt motor, not cosmetically perfect but seems well sorted. But, with racing suspension, etc.
How bad of an idea is this? Probably impossible to answer but thought I'd throw it out there. Also, any tips on convincing my wife that this isn't insane would be welcome.
1) in decent mechanical shape
2) not so pristine that I would hesitate to drive it hard and customize it
3) not so valuable that I wouldn't want to do #2
Something like this one http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1979-porsche-911sc-4/
I have found a 911SC race car that has about 15 hours on a rebuilt motor, not cosmetically perfect but seems well sorted. But, with racing suspension, etc.
How bad of an idea is this? Probably impossible to answer but thought I'd throw it out there. Also, any tips on convincing my wife that this isn't insane would be welcome.
#11
"Race" or "Track" car is a verrrrry broad set of terms! The bottom line in using a "prepped" car on the street is can you tolerate the compromise:
- firm suspension (wiiiide range here)
- likely lack of heat/cooling (though mine still has heat)
- noise, both interior as well as exhaust
- personal safety: retain the 3-point belts or you really gonna keep strapping in a harness? Roll bar, cage, or what which can impair entry/exit, let alone cause you injury depending on what's in there
- impact safety: factory bumpers or glass that would be utterly useless (up to downright dangerous!) in a road collision
My Trackmeister is largely stock because I knew I wanted to drive it on the street as well. My "mildly" prepped SC is perfect for what I want to do, but that varies wildly from car to person. Be specific about what you want to do, then be specific about the car you will be looking for to fit that bill. Otherwise, you may be sorely disappointed ...or worse.
Edward
- firm suspension (wiiiide range here)
- likely lack of heat/cooling (though mine still has heat)
- noise, both interior as well as exhaust
- personal safety: retain the 3-point belts or you really gonna keep strapping in a harness? Roll bar, cage, or what which can impair entry/exit, let alone cause you injury depending on what's in there
- impact safety: factory bumpers or glass that would be utterly useless (up to downright dangerous!) in a road collision
My Trackmeister is largely stock because I knew I wanted to drive it on the street as well. My "mildly" prepped SC is perfect for what I want to do, but that varies wildly from car to person. Be specific about what you want to do, then be specific about the car you will be looking for to fit that bill. Otherwise, you may be sorely disappointed ...or worse.
Edward
#12
Thanks to all that chimed in. That was more an example of what I was thinking of. The car I was looking at is an actual race car with a full cage. No heat, no a/c and a full roll cage so no drivers window. They wanted in the 30s which didn't make sense given what it would have taken for me to get it street worthy. The hunt continues!!
#13
It's a Hot Rod. It sold for $46,911. I think someone got a decent buy.
This BaT car has the looks but retains the stock parts underneath. That means it's usable on the street.
I took my 911 way too far as a track car. It got to the point where it really wasn't usable as a street car.
I actually enjoy it more now that it has small sway bars and carpeting.
Richard Newton
Turbo Tie Rod Ends
This BaT car has the looks but retains the stock parts underneath. That means it's usable on the street.
I took my 911 way too far as a track car. It got to the point where it really wasn't usable as a street car.
I actually enjoy it more now that it has small sway bars and carpeting.
Richard Newton
Turbo Tie Rod Ends
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#15
It's pretty easy to get carried away transforming a street car into a well sorted DE/track car , i was into mine for close to 60K ... when i realized that anybody with a stock Cayman "S" or GT3 was faster anyways around any given track.
I finally slowly brought the car back to "street " use and picked up an SP2 race car that i now race without having to worry if i rub fenders with somebody else on track !
I wish i had learned the difference earlier between what should have stayed a street car and what is considered a track car, would have saved me tons of money !
Just sayin ...
I finally slowly brought the car back to "street " use and picked up an SP2 race car that i now race without having to worry if i rub fenders with somebody else on track !
I wish i had learned the difference earlier between what should have stayed a street car and what is considered a track car, would have saved me tons of money !
Just sayin ...