Will 991.1 GT3 Prices Tank?
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some more:
997.2 GT3 RS 4.0: 178.596 Euro
991.1 GT3: 137.303 Euro
991.1 GT3 RS: 181.690 Euro
997.2 to 991.1 GT3: +17,4%
997.2 to 991.1 GT3 RS: +24,6%
those Stuttgart guys want see $$$
and they should get it! even more with meeting the demand.
997.2 GT3 RS 4.0: 178.596 Euro
991.1 GT3: 137.303 Euro
991.1 GT3 RS: 181.690 Euro
997.2 to 991.1 GT3: +17,4%
997.2 to 991.1 GT3 RS: +24,6%
those Stuttgart guys want see $$$
and they should get it! even more with meeting the demand.
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I am actually curious to see what this new GT3 does to 991.1. RS prices. Wouldn't be surprised if the new GT3 prices are ridiculous, while simultaneously pulling down RS prices a bit. And I wouldn't be surprised if .1 GT3 prices soften as much as RS prices do, % wise. But...who knows?
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my guess / hope is:
P will produce as many as fast as possible 991.2GT3 - first cars will always be flipped. Within the first 3 month (till summer 17) the supply should move fast forward. And all the flippers offer them for MSRP. 2.500 units done. Still a lot more to come. A lot more contracts to fullfill.
991.2GT3 will be 10% more expanisve than .1 i guess. Same as it was with the 997. I think it was even more than 10% back than.
991.1GT3RS prices will drop. because 991.2GT3 will be better. I guess even over 500hp numbered. in EU MSRP minus 20k.
991.1GT3 will drop too. but not below 100k as manifold guesses too. now you can buy a superb one for 130k.
things should be normal. guys have to buy cars because it is fun not for money. for many owner the fun dies as soon the value rises.
each year some thousands less (which is still very good) and everybody can concentrate to enjoy the spent money.
P will produce as many as fast as possible 991.2GT3 - first cars will always be flipped. Within the first 3 month (till summer 17) the supply should move fast forward. And all the flippers offer them for MSRP. 2.500 units done. Still a lot more to come. A lot more contracts to fullfill.
991.2GT3 will be 10% more expanisve than .1 i guess. Same as it was with the 997. I think it was even more than 10% back than.
991.1GT3RS prices will drop. because 991.2GT3 will be better. I guess even over 500hp numbered. in EU MSRP minus 20k.
991.1GT3 will drop too. but not below 100k as manifold guesses too. now you can buy a superb one for 130k.
things should be normal. guys have to buy cars because it is fun not for money. for many owner the fun dies as soon the value rises.
each year some thousands less (which is still very good) and everybody can concentrate to enjoy the spent money.
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997.1 gt3 = $106,795
997.2 gt3 = $113,150
+6.0% (actually lower than what i quoted)
Going from 997 --> 991 is irrelevant for predicting 991.2 pricing
Even the GTS (991.1 to 991.2) with its massive performance upgrade only got a 2.9% increase in the US at least
Just sayin'
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i was also guessing with 10% to high at 997 ChicagoM4, no question.
but i think it will happen.
GTS request is not GT3 request. far away from it.
the guys who are settle the prices are no enthusiasts. they are math/statistic lovers. they are accountants. paid for reaching higher margins and profit.
NA pricing from EU producers is generaly a bit unfair. tax cleared i´m speaking.
same when we look into BMW pricing policy...
except Ferrari i think.
but good for most of the RL´isters! 
but i think it will happen.
GTS request is not GT3 request. far away from it.
the guys who are settle the prices are no enthusiasts. they are math/statistic lovers. they are accountants. paid for reaching higher margins and profit.
NA pricing from EU producers is generaly a bit unfair. tax cleared i´m speaking.
same when we look into BMW pricing policy...
except Ferrari i think.
but good for most of the RL´isters!
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i was also guessing with 10% to high at 997 ChicagoM4, no question.
but i think it will happen. those guys want to make money!
NA pricing from EU producers is generaly a bit unfair. even tax cleared.
same when we look into BMW pricing policy...
except Ferrari i think.
but good for most of the RL´isters!
but i think it will happen. those guys want to make money!
NA pricing from EU producers is generaly a bit unfair. even tax cleared.
same when we look into BMW pricing policy...
except Ferrari i think.
but good for most of the RL´isters!
Speaking of unfair pricing... went to a Porsche dealership in Beijing last week while visiting my wife's parents and a 718 Cayman S was ~1,000,000rmb or $145,000 USD. I knew it was going to be higher but damn
edit to your edit: if they really want to make money on their 911s, why not up the msrp on their C2 and C2S since it is their bread and butter. GT cars are relatively low volume and will not make or break profitability. Heck, the 911 range only makes up ~13% of total sales. Up the prices on Macans is a better strategy
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i´m with you.
but on the other 991 from N/A to turbo (same with the GTS) they couldn´t increase their price higher. based on the main market idea of having now a "cheaper not so desirable" engine.
the GT3 if true is getting a 4.0 NA.
(the 9krpm is bs i think)
manual!
everybody is hot for it! aren´t we?
even 997 RS will trop a bit (back to normal)
also 997 4.0 will adjust.
but on the other 991 from N/A to turbo (same with the GTS) they couldn´t increase their price higher. based on the main market idea of having now a "cheaper not so desirable" engine.
the GT3 if true is getting a 4.0 NA.
(the 9krpm is bs i think)
manual!
everybody is hot for it! aren´t we?
even 997 RS will trop a bit (back to normal)
also 997 4.0 will adjust.
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i´m with you.
but on the other 991 from N/A to turbo (same with the GTS) they couldn´t increase their price higher. based on the main market idea of having now a "cheaper not so desirable" engine.
the GT3 if true is getting a 4.0 NA.
(the 9krpm is bs i think)
manual!
everybody is hot for it! aren´t we?
even 997 RS will trop a bit (back to normal)
also 997 4.0 will adjust.
but on the other 991 from N/A to turbo (same with the GTS) they couldn´t increase their price higher. based on the main market idea of having now a "cheaper not so desirable" engine.
the GT3 if true is getting a 4.0 NA.
(the 9krpm is bs i think)
manual!
everybody is hot for it! aren´t we?
even 997 RS will trop a bit (back to normal)
also 997 4.0 will adjust.
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i´m with you.
but on the other 991 from N/A to turbo (same with the GTS) they couldn´t increase their price higher. based on the main market idea of having now a "cheaper not so desirable" engine.
the GT3 if true is getting a 4.0 NA.
(the 9krpm is bs i think)
manual!
everybody is hot for it! aren´t we?
even 997 RS will trop a bit (back to normal)
also 997 4.0 will adjust.
but on the other 991 from N/A to turbo (same with the GTS) they couldn´t increase their price higher. based on the main market idea of having now a "cheaper not so desirable" engine.
the GT3 if true is getting a 4.0 NA.
(the 9krpm is bs i think)
manual!
everybody is hot for it! aren´t we?
even 997 RS will trop a bit (back to normal)
also 997 4.0 will adjust.
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