What do you think,how many RS will be produced total worldwide?

 

The only definitive source would be Porsche but I don't believe they release specific model production numbers. As such we are left with well researched estimates.

Macca has been roughly tracking ROW cars and may have a better idea than me. I believe ROW cars were running 188 and 191 vins so someone could estimate from that.

 

Isn't the North America the biggest RS market of all?

 

There are other threads with a lot of weeping and gnashing of teeth citing 6,000+ RS being built worldwide. Part of this stems from "news" articles coming up with that amount from "sources" within Porsche. Its nonsense, some might be attributed to sour grapes or dismay at Porsche for building so many more than that individual expected.

You've been the most consistent and reliable information source, thanks for all of the prompt data. Once all is said and done, we should make a sticky with the data.

Thanks also for the VIN ranges incl. R.

 

Ah hah, you must be talking about Pfaff. Just checked their website last night. Prices will continue to drop.

 

^Yep. I am sure O has a few as well.. lol

OT: every time I see you post this picture comes to mind..

 

I see, so we don't really know precisely then I suppose.

Another way to estimate (and it is a rough estimate) is to take known numbers from countries where they have to publish registration info by law (UK for example) then make assumptions about what % of the cars typically go to the UK vs the US vs ROW. Still an estimate because you can't be 100% sure what the allocation of RS cars is regionally.

So, for example, I took a quick look (link below) at the UK. I found that through Sep 2016 (data is quarterly) there have been 265 GT3 RS (GT3 RS S-A) registered in the UK for the first time. Interestingly 335 991 GT3s ("S-A" on the table) have been registered.

What I am unsure of is how many RS cars were sold in the UK vs the rest of the world. However, according to the 2014 Porsche annual report, 1,845 911 models were delivered in the UK (10,529 in the US) out of a total 30,510 911s globally. That means that in 2014 6.05% of total global 911 sales were in the UK.

So, using this estimation method, the numbers imply that there are about 4,380 991 GT3 RS globally so far. Roughly, 1,500 of those are in the US. That is through the third quarter 2016.

Here are some links:
Excel Spreadsheet with UK first registrations by model:
https://view.officeapps.live.com/op/...21/veh0160.ods

Porsche 2014 Annual report which I chose because the 2015 report does not break down by model type:
https://newsroom.porsche.com/downloa...a5f461&lang=en

 

LOL. One day, all will know.

 

Galt. I think your method is as good as any.

I posted on this a few months back. At that time I had over 1200 ROW cars identified from only 15 countries, add Europe North America and Canada and we were already at an estimated 3500 at that time. Given these cars are still in production I would suggest that the final number in the UK will end up similar to 991 GT4. Overall I expect NA production to be 35-40% of global RS production. For the RS the splits have been very interesting - some small markets such as HK and Taiwan have now reviewed well over 100 units, this is 3-4x what they received for 991 GT3.

My guess (educated but in substantiated) is that global RS production will be no higher than 4500 units and in all reality possibly closer to 4000 units....

 

The only cars of relevance to me in NA are cars in the NA.

Cars in row and especially right hand drive cars are irrelevant in NA IMO.

 

Except that they are relevant if you want to use one of the ways to estimate how many cars are in NA. Unless you of course have the actual NA numbers somehow? Maybe you are saying there is no consistent relationship between how many cars are delivered in NA vs ROW from year to year? Or maybe you are making some other point I am missing completely?

For me what I want to get to is how many NA cars there are as well. As such, the estimation method I posted earlier is is more about using numbers the numbers that we actually do have. IE official Porsche ROW/NA/UK data on "911" models delivered and UK "first registration" data. We can use the global numbers to imply an estimate of how many US (or NA) cars there are---something that we both care about.

 

Phew - what a relief! Certainly glad this thread isn't about you then....

 

Sorry I wasn't clear.

If NA numbers are somehow a known % of rest of world it's relevant for that purpose.

If the purpose is to gauge exclusivity or "rarity" for NA "valuation" speculation purposes then row irrelevant especially right hand drive. MO.

 

price
# of prouction
displacement
all are numbers
the only number really matters is how many miles you have now put on your GT3/RS.
the rest really is just some lines made by some sort of writing instrument.

 

FIFY