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I'm embarking on what may prove to be a futile exercise in attempting to understand the psyche of a Porsche GT(?) buyer. It's a heavy topic and the thread may disappear into oblivion but give it shot as it relates to all of us.
Based on my interactions with people who attend the Smokies events and noticing their instant bonding, camaraderie, etc I'm convinced that there are some things that are very different and unique about a P GT? owner. These individuals differ from the regular Porsche sports car buyers.
I'm trying to identify those quite unique qualities. They directly enrich and affect "our (GT owner)" lives. Mapping the findings on to theory's such as Maslow's hierarchy of needs could provide for some interesting insights into all of us and what makes us tick and maybe really different!
I'd like the thread to be an unstructured (hence no form or Q & A) discussion about your individual experiences, thoughts, and reasons you bought your Porsche GT? car. The diagram below may help and get you thinking.
Like many, I've had a variety of Porsche cars and were 911's (S,4S,TT).
Being somewhat of an introvert and not wanting to attract attention, the colors were more often than not Silver/Gray.
Over time I've realized that getting a 997.2 GT3 a few years ago was my indirect attempt at busting out from the regulated norm! In a strange way it was more about breaking from convention than about the driving qualities that the GT3 promoted. It's been that way with my 991 GT3 and now even more so with the RS.
My decision about getting GT cars has little to do with sheer performance or logic. It has more to do with my feeling like and being an individual.
With the 991 Gt3 a lot of posers have entered the market for this car. Some hardcore ethusiasts remain but they were reluctant and late to accept this 991 version for various reasons.
New owners don't track their cars or even drive them for that matter. The gt3 has become the ferrari of the 911 line up. Sad cause ferraris are meant to be driven also.
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I would offer that probably 80% of 997 RS owners tracked and probabaly 40% of 991 RS owners track. (Pure WAG on my part offered before someone takes me to task or asks for internal Porsche statistics)
With the 991 Gt3 a lot of posers have entered the market for this car. Some hardcore ethusiasts remain but they were reluctant and late to accept this 991 version for various reasons.
New owners don't track their cars or even drive them for that matter. The gt3 has become the ferrari of the 911 line up. Sad cause ferraris are meant to be driven also.
Just one insight fwiw. The most recent COTA PCA event we had 28 GT cars (about 20% of the total). 13 996/997 (including a few Cups) and 15 991. My observation is 997 participation is declining and 991 is increasing. (GT4 participation at track events is growing very rapidly. )
With record production numbers of 991 GT cars I agree you see quite a few on the track. I just meant that at least as many are not tracked or driven. So with the advent of pdk the poser population percentage has increased drastically which is an increasingly significant psyche out there in addition to the more traditional psyche of Gt car buyers. Not judging any one. If some one chooses to garage queen their car, it's their money and they can enjoy it as they wish. Ferrari owners get a bad rep for this. But porsche gt cars are increasingly in the same situation.
It would be fair to also mention that a bunch of modern GT cars end up with flippers and speculators. So that's another psyche increasingly prevalent out there.
Wonder if that has anything to do with the recent rapid appreciation of the 997 GT cars.
Originally Posted by zedcat
Just one insight fwiw. The most recent COTA PCA event we had 28 GT cars (about 20% of the total). 13 996/997 (including a few Cups) and 15 991. My observation is 997 participation is declining and 991 is increasing. (GT4 participation at track events is growing very rapidly. )
I've owned 3 Pcars and only one GT3. Bought them for me as a reward for working/playing hard and there's nothing wrong with that. None of us will be here forever (except maybe Mooty), so I do what I feel is the right thing for me and no one else.
If you own a 991 GT3 and dont track it you're automatically a poser?
Thats it? You must track it not to be a poser?
Think he's talking about the GTR fan boy/hype beast guys that have moved into 991 GT3/GT3RS market. There's a huge population of them in Southern California.
no matter which hobby you participate in, there are always the 'real deal' and 'poser' camps. each one judges each as they see fit.
from a marketing perspective, it would seem the latest round of GT cars have had much more exposure than previously. With forums and web video/reviews, there is way more room for exposure beyond magazines and tv shows. The cars are fast and good looking and thus attract buyers looking for same.
If the GT cars in the past were hidden and elusive gems, the secret is out with both demand and supply increased.
Last edited by Bartron; 09-15-2016 at 08:47 PM.
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