VW settles for $14.7 billion
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Drifting
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The car is getting uglier and uglier.........
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/07/bu...=top-news&_r=0
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/07/bu...=top-news&_r=0
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Just so that I have some clarity and perspective...
VW Dieselgate
11 Million vehicles impacted, no direct deaths, and settlement $15B
GM Saddle Tank issue
6 Million vehicles impacted, over 2,000 direct deaths, and settlement of $500M
Pinto Tank issue
2 Million vehicles impacted, close to 200 direct deaths, and settlement of $350M
Takata Airbag issue
Over 70 million vehicles impacted, 20 direct deaths and hundreds of injuries, and settlement of $24B
Sounds like the "environment" has some pretty good lawyers in its camp.
It is not as though the only diesels out there are these ones. Aren't other diesels damaging the environment as much as these noted ones ? Does the "lie" justify the penalties? (in other words how many people would not have purchased said diesels if they knew the "truth" ? - I'm thinking most people would have purchased just the same). Ah the magic of politics ! Maybe even Ralph Nader might giggle over this one
VW Dieselgate
11 Million vehicles impacted, no direct deaths, and settlement $15B
GM Saddle Tank issue
6 Million vehicles impacted, over 2,000 direct deaths, and settlement of $500M
Pinto Tank issue
2 Million vehicles impacted, close to 200 direct deaths, and settlement of $350M
Takata Airbag issue
Over 70 million vehicles impacted, 20 direct deaths and hundreds of injuries, and settlement of $24B
Sounds like the "environment" has some pretty good lawyers in its camp.
It is not as though the only diesels out there are these ones. Aren't other diesels damaging the environment as much as these noted ones ? Does the "lie" justify the penalties? (in other words how many people would not have purchased said diesels if they knew the "truth" ? - I'm thinking most people would have purchased just the same). Ah the magic of politics ! Maybe even Ralph Nader might giggle over this one
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Just so that I have some clarity and perspective...
VW Dieselgate
11 Million vehicles impacted, no direct deaths, and settlement $15B
GERMAN
GM Saddle Tank issue
6 Million vehicles impacted, over 2,000 direct deaths, and settlement of $500M
AMERICAN
Pinto Tank issue
2 Million vehicles impacted, close to 200 direct deaths, and settlement of $350M
AMERICAN
Takata Airbag issue
Over 70 million vehicles impacted, 20 direct deaths and hundreds of injuries, and settlement of $24B
MOSTLY FOREIGN
Sounds like the "environment" has some pretty good lawyers in its camp.
PROTECTIONISM
It is not as though the only diesels out there are these ones. Aren't other diesels damaging the environment as much as these noted ones ? Does the "lie" justify the penalties? (in other words how many people would not have purchased said diesels if they knew the "truth" ? - I'm thinking most people would have purchased just the same). Ah the magic of politics ! Maybe even Ralph Nader might giggle over this one
VW Dieselgate
11 Million vehicles impacted, no direct deaths, and settlement $15B
GERMAN
GM Saddle Tank issue
6 Million vehicles impacted, over 2,000 direct deaths, and settlement of $500M
AMERICAN
Pinto Tank issue
2 Million vehicles impacted, close to 200 direct deaths, and settlement of $350M
AMERICAN
Takata Airbag issue
Over 70 million vehicles impacted, 20 direct deaths and hundreds of injuries, and settlement of $24B
MOSTLY FOREIGN
Sounds like the "environment" has some pretty good lawyers in its camp.
PROTECTIONISM
It is not as though the only diesels out there are these ones. Aren't other diesels damaging the environment as much as these noted ones ? Does the "lie" justify the penalties? (in other words how many people would not have purchased said diesels if they knew the "truth" ? - I'm thinking most people would have purchased just the same). Ah the magic of politics ! Maybe even Ralph Nader might giggle over this one
Good lawyers protecting their own.
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Just so that I have some clarity and perspective...
VW Dieselgate
11 Million vehicles impacted, no direct deaths, and settlement $15B
GM Saddle Tank issue
6 Million vehicles impacted, over 2,000 direct deaths, and settlement of $500M
Pinto Tank issue
2 Million vehicles impacted, close to 200 direct deaths, and settlement of $350M
Takata Airbag issue
Over 70 million vehicles impacted, 20 direct deaths and hundreds of injuries, and settlement of $24B
Sounds like the "environment" has some pretty good lawyers in its camp.
It is not as though the only diesels out there are these ones. Aren't other diesels damaging the environment as much as these noted ones ? Does the "lie" justify the penalties? (in other words how many people would not have purchased said diesels if they knew the "truth" ? - I'm thinking most people would have purchased just the same). Ah the magic of politics ! Maybe even Ralph Nader might giggle over this one
VW Dieselgate
11 Million vehicles impacted, no direct deaths, and settlement $15B
GM Saddle Tank issue
6 Million vehicles impacted, over 2,000 direct deaths, and settlement of $500M
Pinto Tank issue
2 Million vehicles impacted, close to 200 direct deaths, and settlement of $350M
Takata Airbag issue
Over 70 million vehicles impacted, 20 direct deaths and hundreds of injuries, and settlement of $24B
Sounds like the "environment" has some pretty good lawyers in its camp.
It is not as though the only diesels out there are these ones. Aren't other diesels damaging the environment as much as these noted ones ? Does the "lie" justify the penalties? (in other words how many people would not have purchased said diesels if they knew the "truth" ? - I'm thinking most people would have purchased just the same). Ah the magic of politics ! Maybe even Ralph Nader might giggle over this one
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Tells me domestic suppliers get a pass.