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Old Oct 8, 2016 | 02:10 PM
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Thumbs up V8 Cayman

OK. Hasn't been a good controversy for a long time so here we go! I'd not only have the Coyote V8 in my Cayman over any of the flat sixes ever offered but certainly over the dinky little 4 they're going with now....

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Old Oct 10, 2016 | 11:08 AM
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It depends on how fast you want to go how quick you want to go fast.
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Old Oct 10, 2016 | 07:50 PM
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I'm surprised that this isn't happening more with the 996s, for what guys spend on a rebuild after a failure, even a 4 L rebuild cost significantly more with less power.
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Old Oct 10, 2016 | 09:24 PM
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It is very tempting.
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Old Oct 11, 2016 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark Lue
I'm surprised that this isn't happening more with the 996s, for what guys spend on a rebuild after a failure, even a 4 L rebuild cost significantly more with less power.
I'll start to happen soon! Used M96s are stupid expensive and new or even rebuilt ones are way overpriced too. There is nothing in these engines that I like. Wish the 928 was actually successful replacing the 911.
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Old Oct 11, 2016 | 07:11 PM
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Or you could just buy a mustang....

... but I'm with Ronnie on the flat 4. I wouldn't buy the 718 or new cayman base.

The flat six is part of what makes the 911 and former caymans/boxsters so special. Imo000, the 928 would have been successful... if it were better than the 911. But it's not pretty, it's not iconic, it's boring from a design standpoint, and it's not unique. The 911 is a special car, which is why it's so successful and coveted. The engine is part of its' charm, take away that and you take away a huge part of why we love these cars.

EDIT: I take back the "it's not unique" - it definitely is unique. I still stand by my other opinions of it as why it wasn't successful!

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Old Oct 11, 2016 | 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by porsche0nut
the 928 would have been successful... if it were better than the 911. But it's not pretty, it's not iconic, it's boring from a design standpoint, and it's not unique.
928 owners say the same if the 911. just sayin.

Personally I love both, they are totally different cars and should never really be compared IMO.

Back to the discussion, is the 928 motor to wide to fit in a Caymen? At least that would keep it in the family.
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Old Oct 11, 2016 | 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Adamant1971
928 owners say the same if the 911. just sayin.

Personally I love both, they are totally different cars and should never really be compared IMO.

Back to the discussion, is the 928 motor to wide to fit in a Caymen? At least that would keep it in the family.
You're right, totally different cars each with their own positives.... and that V8 is an impressive engine that pulls like a freight train.

I guess my point was that the 911's success itself is proof of it being the more desirable car over time... and the reason for stating this is to support that the flat 6 engine is a large part of its unique character, and what makes it so special. Take the engine away, and you take away one of its defining characters.

Tying this back into the original discussion, I think it's a cool project putting a V8 in a Cayman from an engineering standpoint, and from a powerplant standpoint as mentioned above it makes a lot of sense compared to a rebuild or other Porsche options if the goal is power. BUT you remove a part of the car that makes it what it is.... a Porsche Cayman. The car OP posted isn't a Cayman anymore. So as long as that's what the owner wants... great. But if they want a more powerful Cayman, this is no substitute.
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Old Oct 11, 2016 | 08:38 PM
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Ya to be honest I'm not a fan of any transplants either. Except maybe throwing a 20b in the last gen RX-7.

I hate when people swap American V8's into 928's just because they think it it's easier to fix a dead engine that way. I'm restoring an 89 Euro right now and just put the crank in the block, even 30 odd years later these motors are still going strong as they are built like tanks IMO.

If you want more power I would look at supercharging. Do they make any SC kits for the Cayman?
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Old Oct 11, 2016 | 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Adamant1971
Ya to be honest I'm not a fan of any transplants either. Except maybe throwing a 20b in the last gen RX-7.

I hate when people swap American V8's into 928's just because they think it it's easier to fix a dead engine that way. I'm restoring an 89 Euro right now and just put the crank in the block, even 30 odd years later these motors are still going strong as they are built like tanks IMO.

If you want more power I would look at supercharging. Do they make any SC kits for the Cayman?
Or putting an LS motor in a 968.
Just sayin
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Old Oct 12, 2016 | 01:20 AM
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Coyote (5.0) engine is fantastic....Audi 4.2 V8 is apparently a straight bolt-up to the M96/7-G96 trans....
Fairly tempted to find a beat and dead-engined 996 Carrera to try a 4.2 swap... M96/7 just isn't good for durability, but a nice engine when its in operating order, hopefully time/failures will develop 'fair' aftermarket solutions to its weaknesses
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Old Oct 12, 2016 | 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Brian 162
Or putting an LS motor in a 968.
Just sayin
Hey, it fits, just.
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Old Oct 12, 2016 | 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Adamant1971
928 owners say the same if the 911. just sayin.

Personally I love both, they are totally different cars and should never really be compared IMO.

Back to the discussion, is the 928 motor to wide to fit in a Caymen? At least that would keep it in the family.
the 928 is long gone .. just sayin
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Old Oct 12, 2016 | 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by porsche0nut
Or you could just buy a mustang....

... but I'm with Ronnie on the flat 4. I wouldn't buy the 718 or new cayman base.

The flat six is part of what makes the 911 and former caymans/boxsters so special. Imo000, the 928 would have been successful... if it were better than the 911. But it's not pretty, it's not iconic, it's boring from a design standpoint, and it's not unique. The 911 is a special car, which is why it's so successful and coveted. The engine is part of its' charm, take away that and you take away a huge part of why we love these cars.

EDIT: I take back the "it's not unique" - it definitely is unique. I still stand by my other opinions of it as why it wasn't successful!
I don't think you've ever looked at a 928 close up. I mean really close, close enough to see the suspension and everything else it has. The 911 is a Model T compares to the engineering and technology that the 928 has under it's body panels. It's lightyears ahead of the 911. The only reason the 911 stuck around was the diehard fanboys of the assdragger design. There is nothing good about it. Took Porache 40 years and a crapload of technology to bandaid the design flaw of the 911. Even now, you drive one on an icey road and it will rear it's ugly head. I like my 996 but not as much as my supercharged 5-speed 928.
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Old Oct 12, 2016 | 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by JimV8
Hey, it fits, just.
You figure out the dry sump?
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