Porsche and Audi..joint new engines…..
#1
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
![Default](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/in...and-v8-engines
Hopefully the flat sixes will not be part of this trend……...
Hopefully the flat sixes will not be part of this trend……...
#6
![Default](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
I'm with you on the Tesla... I'm very excited for the Model 3. The Model S is a beautiful car and I would definitely buy one if I had the money. Model 3 is more up my alley financially though.
I see the Model 3 doing to cars what the iPhone did to cell phones... but that's just my opinion.
I see the Model 3 doing to cars what the iPhone did to cell phones... but that's just my opinion.
#7
Rennlist Member
Trending Topics
#8
Race Car
![Default](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
...not in our lifetime unless there's a Black Swan battery breakthrough. Inadequate range, weight and economics will ensure petrol power remains the predominant fuel for decades to come. The market share of all electric and hybrid cars has plunged to under 0.7% from a high of about 3%. A friend of a friend is having to replace a Tesla battery after 7 years at a cost of $25,000 US. That's worse than an IMS failure!
#9
Burning Brakes
![Default](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Originally Posted by ronnie993tt
...not in our lifetime unless there's a Black Swan battery breakthrough. Inadequate range, weight and economics will ensure petrol power remains the predominant fuel for decades to come. I think the market share of all electric and hybrid cars has plunged to under 1% from a high of just under 3%. A friend of a friend is having to replace a Tesla battery after 7 years at a cost of $25,000 US. That's worse than an IMS failure!
#10
Nordschleife Master
![Default](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
...not in our lifetime unless there's a Black Swan battery breakthrough. Inadequate range, weight and economics will ensure petrol power remains the predominant fuel for decades to come. I think the market share of all electric and hybrid cars has plunged to under 1% from a high of just under 3%. A friend of a friend is having to replace a Tesla battery after 7 years at a cost of $25,000 US. That's worse than an IMS failure!
#12
Captain Obvious
Super User
Super User
#13
![Default](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Tesla is a toy electric second car for rich people. It has inadequate range to be the sole car for just about anyone, and the company isn't even close to being economically viable in the long term. Tesla loses over $4000 on every car it makes despite extremely generous subsidies from state and federal governments and a price tag north of US$80,000. It will remain a niche car dependent on corporate welfare handouts for the forseeable future.
#14
![Default](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Tesla is a toy electric second car for rich people. It has inadequate range to be the sole car for just about anyone, and the company isn't even close to being economically viable in the long term. Tesla loses over $4000 on every car it makes despite extremely generous subsidies from state and federal governments and a price tag north of US$80,000. It will remain a niche car dependent on corporate welfare handouts for the forseeable future.
From a business perspective how can that work? Or are they playing the long game ($25K for replacement batteries when the time comes!)?
#15
![Default](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe...ticle25903294/
The really interesting part:
"Tesla reports its finances in a different way from the Detroit automakers. Using the generally accepted accounting principles, or GAAP, used by GM or Ford, Tesla’s operating losses per vehicle have steadily widened to $14,758 from $3,794 in the second quarter of 2014."