Might this happen in Ontario?
07-04-2014, 10:53 AM
#4
Rennlist Member
My son discovered that 125 is beyond OPP's tolerance north of Huntsville on Hwy 11.
07-04-2014, 11:00 AM
#5
Never gonna happen, fine revenue is more important.
07-04-2014, 11:39 AM
#7
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Just cruise at 118 = no stress = minimal time lost given relatively short trips = FUZZ leaves you alone unless he is REALLY bored, or jealous that you drive a Porsche
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07-04-2014, 12:21 PM
#8
Drifting
The system is set up like a star chamber - The Province wants a plead guilty machine running along smoothly so they set up an elaborate system to make it hard to fight tickets (easy to pay however) without all these personal appearances. The cops WANT you to fight tickets so they can continue to get themselves on the Provinces Sunshine List while giving high fives to other officers laughing at us around the courthouse coffee line. Yeah, he looks groggy while in court because he's on overtime during the day time court appearance after he worked the overnight shift - but what the hay, Mama wants that holiday in Cuba you know! Call in sick to make sure the next court appearance is again when your not working the day shift but an afternoon or evening shift so you get that mandatory 4 hours of overtime when you should be sleeping. Ask any court clerk about the 'gaming' of the system that goes on.
Meanwhile shootings and knifing's every night in Rexdale. But wait - the Provinces highways are safe they shout. Yeah, don't want to walk into coffee shop at 11:00PM around some GTA areas - but I'm 'saved' by an officer because I was doing 120 on the 407...
Its not about safety. Its about Government income and personal gain. If speeds are increased the amount of tickets goes down as the Mom and Pop type offenders who only drive 10kph over are eliminated from the data. The largest percentage of speeding tickets is in the 10-20kph over. The MTO data shows this. Raise the limits and then have a HARD enforcement for any speed over this. Allow a pilot test - pick a section of the 400 between two points north and south and raise the limit there for a 1 year period and then look a the accident data. If it is shown to be a disaster - then so be it - we'll stick with the 100kph limit. But if it shows that there are no real safety issues after the test - raise the limits back to 1970's levels.
But you know the OPP police association and the Min of Finance would never allow that to happen as they have too much $$$ too lose.
Meanwhile shootings and knifing's every night in Rexdale. But wait - the Provinces highways are safe they shout. Yeah, don't want to walk into coffee shop at 11:00PM around some GTA areas - but I'm 'saved' by an officer because I was doing 120 on the 407...
Its not about safety. Its about Government income and personal gain. If speeds are increased the amount of tickets goes down as the Mom and Pop type offenders who only drive 10kph over are eliminated from the data. The largest percentage of speeding tickets is in the 10-20kph over. The MTO data shows this. Raise the limits and then have a HARD enforcement for any speed over this. Allow a pilot test - pick a section of the 400 between two points north and south and raise the limit there for a 1 year period and then look a the accident data. If it is shown to be a disaster - then so be it - we'll stick with the 100kph limit. But if it shows that there are no real safety issues after the test - raise the limits back to 1970's levels.
But you know the OPP police association and the Min of Finance would never allow that to happen as they have too much $$$ too lose.
07-04-2014, 12:26 PM
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If Olivia Chow gets her way, they will be lowering speed limits in Toronto to increase pedestrian safety.
Extra long street cars, massive bike lanes, possible lower speed limits... I might just use an ATV to get to work instead...
Extra long street cars, massive bike lanes, possible lower speed limits... I might just use an ATV to get to work instead...
07-04-2014, 12:39 PM
#10
Captain Obvious
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^^^^ All that is called Active Transportation or Road Diet. ^^^^ Make the city roads so congested that vehicle drivers will take transit instead.....and transit will have priority lanes/signals and so on. Goes totally againts Traffic Engineering but some of the GTA cities are going with it... Mississauga is one.
07-04-2014, 01:03 PM
#11
The system is set up like a star chamber - The Province wants a plead guilty machine running along smoothly so they set up an elaborate system to make it hard to fight tickets (easy to pay however) without all these personal appearances. The cops WANT you to fight tickets so they can continue to get themselves on the Provinces Sunshine List while giving high fives to other officers laughing at us around the courthouse coffee line. Yeah, he looks groggy while in court because he's on overtime during the day time court appearance after he worked the overnight shift - but what the hay, Mama wants that holiday in Cuba you know! Call in sick to make sure the next court appearance is again when your not working the day shift but an afternoon or evening shift so you get that mandatory 4 hours of overtime when you should be sleeping. Ask any court clerk about the 'gaming' of the system that goes on.
Meanwhile shootings and knifing's every night in Rexdale. But wait - the Provinces highways are safe they shout. Yeah, don't want to walk into coffee shop at 11:00PM around some GTA areas - but I'm 'saved' by an officer because I was doing 120 on the 407...
Its not about safety. Its about Government income and personal gain. If speeds are increased the amount of tickets goes down as the Mom and Pop type offenders who only drive 10kph over are eliminated from the data. The largest percentage of speeding tickets is in the 10-20kph over. The MTO data shows this. Raise the limits and then have a HARD enforcement for any speed over this. Allow a pilot test - pick a section of the 400 between two points north and south and raise the limit there for a 1 year period and then look a the accident data. If it is shown to be a disaster - then so be it - we'll stick with the 100kph limit. But if it shows that there are no real safety issues after the test - raise the limits back to 1970's levels.
But you know the OPP police association and the Min of Finance would never allow that to happen as they have too much $$$ too lose.
Meanwhile shootings and knifing's every night in Rexdale. But wait - the Provinces highways are safe they shout. Yeah, don't want to walk into coffee shop at 11:00PM around some GTA areas - but I'm 'saved' by an officer because I was doing 120 on the 407...
Its not about safety. Its about Government income and personal gain. If speeds are increased the amount of tickets goes down as the Mom and Pop type offenders who only drive 10kph over are eliminated from the data. The largest percentage of speeding tickets is in the 10-20kph over. The MTO data shows this. Raise the limits and then have a HARD enforcement for any speed over this. Allow a pilot test - pick a section of the 400 between two points north and south and raise the limit there for a 1 year period and then look a the accident data. If it is shown to be a disaster - then so be it - we'll stick with the 100kph limit. But if it shows that there are no real safety issues after the test - raise the limits back to 1970's levels.
But you know the OPP police association and the Min of Finance would never allow that to happen as they have too much $$$ too lose.
07-04-2014, 07:46 PM
#12
Race Car
Isn't it amazing how a few very noisy bike ***** are able to get politicians to allocate road space they don't even pay for to bikes, while an infinitely larger number of car drivers are greatly inconvenienced and ignored...........'cause bike ***** bitch to their elected representatives rather than there buddies on line. Just sayin', call your MPP and Councillor.
07-05-2014, 12:12 AM
#14
Drifting
You make 120 legal, then everyone is driving 140. They won't strictly enforce it. Most people on the road don't know how to drive at that speed. First we need better driver education. they should collect some crash by ticketing left lane hogs, people who don't know how to merge, yield, change lanes etc.
07-05-2014, 12:52 AM
#15
Nordschleife Master
You make 120 legal, then everyone is driving 140. They won't strictly enforce it. Most people on the road don't know how to drive at that speed. First we need better driver education. they should collect some crash by ticketing left lane hogs, people who don't know how to merge, yield, change lanes etc.