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Old 12-05-2012, 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Zook@SCB
I think 98-02 MK4 Turbo Models (1.8T & TDI) they had ASR as Standard which is a Previous Version of ESP. My 2000 1.8T had ASR and i think TDI also must have ASR as its Turbo too but the 2.0L did not has ASR as Standard (Optional)

ESP was introduced in 2003
These TDIs are only 90hp. You really have to gun it in the snow to get the gires to spin. That's why I didn't think traction control was even offered.
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so could this be a good buy? http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/va...386815373.html
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If you are in BC... But really, all this talk about spending 8500$ on an 03 TDI drives me crazy. You can get a 99.5 - 03 Audi A4 (same car) that has quattro and better interior and better climate control for 5000$

At 2l /100km difference and 30,000km per year you are looking at 720$ per year in increased fuel cost. My A4 1.8T get 7.8l/100km on the highway. It is also way more sporty and comfortable. It is over 250k in mileage and still running strong

It would take you almost 5 years to recoup that cost. Not to mention the noise and cold weather starting issues.
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Rod, there is no way that an A4 will do that at 125km/h. The diesel on the other hand will only use 5.5L at those speeds. I agree with those prices, they are waaaay over priced. I've bought a nwer TDI for my wife in June for $9000 and it alreadg had the timing belt service, new tires and brakes and it's a MKV (2006) fully loaded with 200K kms. The one before, a '00, that had over 550K kms when I sold it. My DD is half a year older and has the same mileage. I also agree that unless everything is working the way it should, they will have a hard time starting when the temperature dipps below -20C. The noise is only really there when cold, after warmed up and under load (driving) the typical diesel sound is gone.

Also, they stink when cold. The ONLY reason I have them is because we both drive close to 50K. The fuel saving for use is around $350-$400/month.
kms/year and the fuel savings
Old 12-05-2012, 11:26 AM
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I was looking at a Passat 2005 TDI wagon, the owner is/was asking almost 14K for an almost perfect example. It wasn't nearly perfect, needing body work and belts were due also. If the car really was perfect and maintenance all up to date with records then maybe it would be close to that amount. But with all the issues I thought maybe $8K was more in line. The pricing on those TDIs really is irrational.
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Originally Posted by Imo000
Rod, there is no way that an A4 will do that at 125km/h. The diesel on the other hand will only use 5.5L at those speeds. I agree with those prices, they are waaaay over priced. I've bought a nwer TDI for my wife in June for $9000 and it alreadg had the timing belt service, new tires and brakes and it's a MKV (2006) fully loaded with 200K kms. The one before, a '00, that had over 550K kms when I sold it. My DD is half a year older and has the same mileage. I also agree that unless everything is working the way it should, they will have a hard time starting when the temperature dipps below -20C. The noise is only really there when cold, after warmed up and under load (driving) the typical diesel sound is gone.

Also, they stink when cold. The ONLY reason I have them is because we both drive close to 50K. The fuel saving for use is around $350-$400/month.
kms/year and the fuel savings
I got 7.8 l / 100 with mine all day long. Keep in mind it is not chipped. That makes a HUGE difference.
Old 02-28-2014, 10:19 AM
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Default Suspension refresh for a MKIV Jetta

Sorry non VW people for the bump.

Originally Posted by Imo000
I think the replacement joints were all trw or something simmilar in quality. We have 2 TDI. Up until June they were both mkIVs. In June I sold the '00 with 550 000km and bought an '06 TDI with 200k for the wife. My DD is a '99.5 TDI with 550k kms but I only had that car for less than 2 years. The previous owner replaced most of the suspension and even the engine but the replacement engine had a cracked exhaust valve so I got it for $900. I can't be happier with our TDIs.....the more you drive it the less problems they have. However sice you have a 1.8t, and in good running condition and low kms. I would keep it if I were you. My father has an '02 1.8t with 425 000km and the engine vas never openned, the turbo is still original too. His is chipped too but thats it, rest is stock. Used to be my neighbour's car and then he sold it to me when it was time to buy a new car. So....keep the 1.8t as 30k/year is not worth the savings to deal with a TDI. Diesels don't like cold weather
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How did the redone suspension hold up? I'm currently at 266,000km on my 1.8T, and it is in need of a suspension refresh all around. I did the rear axle bushings last year, but I believe all other rubber bits and mounts need to be redone. I plan to do it myself once the weather goes above freezing, and I can get a day to work at it.

Did you replace struts? The mechanic I use says he never sees a VW strut/shock fail, but maybe he means leak... (I think they might be gas charged, and don't leak fluid?)


I've done research on vwvortex, but most there only recommend Bilstein or Koni.... I don't think I want to spend the $$$ on those on a daily driver. Realistically, I might be able to get 2 more years out of this.... all depends on emissions....
I've got a pretty harsh ride now, in what is basically a 30K/yr daily driver.
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Good to hear there is TDI love on rennlist. I too got a MKIV ALH TDI shortly after my Pcar purchase. Definitely surprised at how much money it has saved me in fueling costs.
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I'll aswer those questions when I'm home on the PC. My 99.5 MKIV will be rolling over the 600K mark this weekend. Its ugly looking but it works.
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brought it in to a garage to check it out... went on a test drive, put it up on the hoist.

bottom coil of my spring is busted off....
Old 02-28-2014, 10:36 PM
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That shouldn't be a big problem. The junkyards are full of them so getting a replacement spring isn't a problem.

I've replaced most of the suspension on my '00 that I had for 8 years. If you only want to keep it for a couple more years then just replace what is worn and nothing more. The car should be unusable when you are done with it, this way you get the most value out of it. The junkyard will give you $250 just for the weight. Some might disagree with my methods but it works for me..
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Originally Posted by 69gaugeman
All this talk about spending 8500$ on an 03 TDI drives me crazy. You can get a 99.5 - 03 Audi A4 (same car) that has quattro and better interior and better climate control for 5000$
An A4 is NOT a Jetta or a Golf -- it's a newer Passat. VW takes the previous generation A4 platform and builds the Passat on it. It's substantially bigger and heavier.

You're right about them being great value, though. I miss mine terribly now that I'm back in Ontario for a few weeks.
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Originally Posted by Imo000
That shouldn't be a big problem. The junkyards are full of them so getting a replacement spring isn't a problem. I've replaced most of the suspension on my '00 that I had for 8 years. If you only want to keep it for a couple more years then just replace what is worn and nothing more. The car should be unusable when you are done with it, this way you get the most value out of it. The junkyard will give you $250 just for the weight. Some might disagree with my methods but it works for me..
Did you replace your suspension with oem or did you go aftermarket ? 600 000kms that's wild! am at 280000 kms and thought that was a lot already.

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Old 03-02-2014, 08:38 PM
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I used aftermarket parts. Replace them as they failed. Some people replace everything at once, its a personal choice. My wife's '06 at 275K feels still pretty new. The MKV platform is a huge improvement over the previous one. The cold start system is amazing. This one starts like a gasoline engine even in -25C.
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Originally Posted by Imo000
I used aftermarket parts. Replace them as they failed. Some people replace everything at once, its a personal choice. My wife's '06 at 275K feels still pretty new. The MKV platform is a huge improvement over the previous one. The cold start system is amazing. This one starts like a gasoline engine even in -25C.
thank you, I think that's what I'll do as well. Help keep costs down too.


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